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Best email providers and Proton replacement? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by vas@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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What do you folks use instead of Proton and Google? Ideally I'm looking for:

Non-profit.
European-based if possible.
Paid is fine.
Low-risk. E.g. unlikely to disappear, unlikely to go bankrupt.

My reason to want non-profit is that it's the best way to align mine and the provider's incentives, I think. I'd consider for-profit as well, but it's best if it's a non-profit.

So far I like disroot a lot. But they are principled about being unpaid, so if the financial ends don't meet each other my emails will be in trouble. I'm donating to them, but I have my worries. I'm willing to pay a little if I know that my money will go for a quality service, for expansion of coverage (new users) and for open-source technologies.

Proton and their founder Andy are just a piece of sh*t in terms of upper management, so that's not worth discussing.

Posteo seems adequate. Tuta feels similar to Posteo with a bit more push for fanciness. Is there something similar but non-profit?

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[–] iForgotSpells@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks for all the work you and the organizations do! I didn't think like you, but now I'm interested, being able to jump ship quickly as I have control is interesting. I'm a noob to this, can you share resources/software you use for encrypting emails and stuff ?

[–] psyq@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago

Ah, thanks, my contribution is mostly just money/donations and then voting correctly 4 times a year so the government doesn't get any crazy ideas ;)

I have to say I barely even use encrypted e-mail, when I do it's just through GnuPG. I've used Claws-Mail's GPG plugin and Thunderbird's built-in PGP support, works well enough. But I'm not very up to date, maybe you can find better information and nicer tools from e.g. Privacy Guides. They have a section on OpenPGP but it's dry because this is just a dry topic :(

[–] vas@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I think they specifically say to not use email encryption at all. Instead they mention Magic Wormhole and Signal.