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Hi all, a couple of years back I moved to Proton on a 2 year plan. Then the CEO started spouting Trump stuff. I cancelled at the time but the subscription is only now up for renewal.
I have moved everything across to Tuta recently, but I don't like it, so I'm looking for further suggestions.
Why didn't Tuta work for me?
- No function to auto-forward emails to another email address.
- No bridge or IMAP so I can't connect to Paperless
- Mobile app is janky - when I swipe to archive, it sort of sits there for a while as it talks to the server. And just generally it feels slow like it's waiting for the server for every action instead of backgrounding the requests.
- Web app is weird. It doesn't even have an archive button, I have to use "Move -> Archive" making it slow to go through my inbox.
- Importing emails is only available on their most expensive plan. Weird to not want people to move to your platform? (it also couldn't handle 15000 emails, I had to load them 1000 at a time)
Things I want:
- Must support custom domain
- Must support catchall
- Must support forwarding an email to another email address based on the "to" address
- Must not be run by dicks (e.g. Trump supporting CEO or Proton, union busting like Fastmail, and no big tech) - as close as possible at least
- Should have some method to connect to my self-hosted Paperless NGX (e.g. Proton's bridge, or just IMAP)
- Should have emails encrypted from provider if possible - not sure if anyone other than Proton or Tuta do this.
- Should support GPG
- Should allow importing email history from previous provider
- Should have a nice web/mobile app or allow IMAP. Bonus points if I don't have to use the Play store.
Honestly I'd put up with the janky app if Tuta had the functions I want, I mostly just want my money going to some provider that aren't dicks, but having the provider not be able to read my emails would be a bonus.
Anyone got suggestions for me?
Have you looked at mailbox.org? I'm still researching where to go from Proton myself
I have seen it mentioned but went with Tuta because of the E2EE. But as it turns out it's only for Tuta to Tuta emails.
I think Mailbox.org is looking like something I should look into further.
Just fyi - afaik with Proton it is also only Proton to Proton emails that are automatically e2e encrypted.
Both providers have an option to encrypt other outgoing emails, but the reader needs to enter a password which is a hassle and "nobody" seems to use those options.
The difference is Proton supports pgp, tuta doesn't. Proton also has it's IMAP Bridge, while tuta doesn't support it at all.
Proton is trying to be a walled garden, but tuta is on another level.
I am also researching where to go, I have looked at mailbox.org and signed up for the trial to give it a go but everything on there seems really convoluted.
Like I want to add a custom domain, I have no idea what I'm really doing with it all but tuta laid it all out nice and easily for me.
I can't even find the fucking custom domain area / settings on mailbox. Shit like this pushes potential users away. I dont know much about email and I dont want to learn, just tell me what I need to do to use your service damn it!
The interface is clunky, but they have a fairly decent documentation which is worth giving a try.