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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If we have fully autonomous cars, why would we need cabs?

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

1.. Buy fully autonomous car

2.. rent it out as an autonomous cab

3.. use an autonomous cab to get around

4.. ???????

5.. Profit

[–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

This works if most people don't have an autonomous car too, so they are forced to rent one. The business case for this is such level of poverty where most people cannot afford owning a car; and then a petty rentier class exploiting them for pennies. Welcome to neo-feudalism.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I don’t want someone riding around in my car unsupervised. Give me good public transport instead!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago
[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's a matter of who owns the resource, and your current state assumption is what oligarchs want to change.

Just like PCs, they will structure it so you won't be able to afford one. For vehicles they'll use the insurance industry as a wedge as well, and as more and more people lease/rent their vehicle with included insurance(this will be one of the talking points for the owners class selling you one), those trying to not have a rent payment will see their premiums ever increase.

Think about how insane car prices have gotten ecen for used vehicles in the last few years--and It's not improving even though all the "supply chain" issues attributed to COVID have long ended. It's the same system phenomenon that happens in gentrifying areas with the existing minorities; property values go up, as do property taxes and even long-time residents who own their home free and clear can't afford the property tax increases--it snowballs into additional gentrification.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s a matter of who owns the resource,

Yes so Musk wants us to drive cabs as in not owning our own cars, and Sam Altman wants us to not own our own AI but rent it from ChatGPT.

THEY want it that way to monopolize a service and make more money.
The question was why would WE want it?

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The question was why would WE want it?

Because otherwise, you'll have no car and no computer.

It's classic capitalist rent-seeking. Take away your access to something, then rent it back to you.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because otherwise, you’ll have no car and no computer.

What? Why the hell not? Musk cannot prevent Toyota and VW from selling cars and Sam Altman cannot prevent people from buying computers.
They may be delusional, but why make it out like their delusions have any foundation in reality?

[–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You are both right. That's what they want, and that's what we need to resist. Because without active resistance they will try to prevent you from owning things (which today they can't yet).

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't see any way they should be able to prevent people from owning things. That would need to some dystopian government interference that I don't see possible to happen, not even in the corrupt USA.

[–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A large percentage of the world's population has experienced government interference including and beyond who can own what. It is very possible to happen, and thinking otherwise, respectfully, is unfortunately what helps it make happen.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Everything is possible, that doesn't necessarily make it likely. Some things can be so unlikely they are not worth considering.

[–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Most people in East Europe in the 1930-es didn't think it likely that the rest of the century will be spent under the yoke of various dictatorships. Most people in Weimar Germany didn't think that the Nazis are a serious threat. There are probably other examples I am less familiar with.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

musk wants to go to mars so bad because there are no labor laws on mars

[–] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

No age of consent either.