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Okay so yes, I'm vegan and I don't love PETAs tactics and some of their practices are not the same choices I would make. I'm going to leave it at that, I will not debate carnists about PETA. Just like I try not to criticise leftist movements in non-leftist spaces and will focus on specific elements and not write them off entirely.
I do think a variety of tactics is important, just like in leftist movements. It takes a lot of different approaches to tackle these huge systemic problems. No one is making me do street theater. I can choose not to like it or think it's effective. But it doesn't mean it never reaches anyone or that people don't enjoy that outlet.
Edit: I should probably explain how that connects lol - so even if I don't like it and people think it gives vegans a bad image, I don't think the meme is literally true. People will take issue with even the mildest perceived criticism. I am very careful to not discuss it in some circumstances but if someone asks for dietary restraints and I answer sometimes even that makes them defensive. You can't win.
Someone once pointed out to me that if non-vegans' critiques of how PETA operates actually worked to further PETA's goals, those making the critiques wouldn't be non-vegans
That sounds like a textbook example of confirmation bias 😅 It also ignores the idea that it takes a lot of different tactics to reach different people.
I do know people who were swayed by PETA and I think those are the folks who end up taking that approach themselves. They might not immediately jump into it, but they do it because it worked on them.
Conversely, that's why I focus on antispeciesm and that it isn't some giant sacrifice.
One of the important tactics to reach different people is not to use derogatory names like "carnists" to describe them. Even if you have a good point to make, I am less likely to listen to you if you're calling me names.