World News
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
view the rest of the comments
A European attack is prevented by critical voices from within Europe. If those voices are removed we will attack despite the threat of nuclear bombs.
Easy to say. You say "we will attack" so I assume you — like me — are part of at least some European military?
I'm in the Finnish Defence Forces. Our entire military strategy is based around defending an attack from Russia, not actively attacking it.
That's why the new weapons are needed, to prepare for an attack.
Why else would Europe need those weapons? Russia has problems fighting Ukraine. How could they fight Europe?
Btw, I say we because any serious war will use the entire population, like Ukraine.
I don't think you understand just how large thing a country's entire military strategy is. You don't just up and change it like getting a new patch on your favourite game.
There's infra built literally almost a century ago for these very purposes, the entire reserve would need to be retrained basically.
That's how we've been able to keep Russia from attacking us since the previous bout; by being extremely prepared to defend against an attack.
Also, surely you're aware that wars of aggression are banned in international law? We can't just attack Russia with thr combined might of EU armies, as it stands rn.
That's why we need to get Ukraine to the EU, so that then it's not a war of aggression, but honoring the mutual defense clause.
That's also why Russia is pulling off their sabotage like cutting cables and jamming GPS, etc. Because as long as it's not a direct military attack, EU cannot respond with military force.
Oh and, in which country's military forces would you be participating in this attack fantasy?
Ukraine soldiers are trained for 3 months. There can't be much infrastructure needed for an attack since the battle is on enemy territory when it starts.
Iraq, Libya and others. At worst we call it a special military operation in support of Ukraine.
I guess there is no need to wait for EU membership to help a country in need.
None. After these comments at most they will use me for medical support.
Dude. Stop. You don't know what you're talking about, and every addition is making it more cringe.
I have the training to train basic jaegers in two weeks. Those are the simple infantry for the front. More specialised soldiers, like NCO's, especially specialist NCO's like me, take far longer to train. You know in strategy games it takes longer and costs more to churn our specialised soldiers?
Imagine that you have a league of legends/starcraft/CIV game going and at more than halfway through you decide to just sell all your units and pivot entirely? How would that ever make sense in any game, if not as some weird YouTube challenge? No actual pro-player would ever try something as silly.
That's a rhetorical example that I hope will convey some of what I'm trying to communicate, since you don't seem to understand how complex military strategy on a national level is. It's not like a sentence or two. It's systems upon systems relying on other systems which are regulated by resources or practical necessities, leaning on other things which are dictated by something else entirely etc etc.
So you're genuinely advocating breaking international law? You don't actually care about morals? That's... off-putting, to say the least.
"After these comments..."
Was it you who commented earlier in the thread about something something "fantasy, not reality"? Because you live in some weird warmongering fantasy war fetish laa-laa land. There's no fucking NSA looking at what people have been writing if you're conscripted to be infantry. You're taught how to march, then how to obey, then given a gun, taught how to shoot it, then how to shoot it while moving forward, then taught how to move forwards while shooting it under enemy fire, then how to move while shooting while under enemy fire and communicating with your group (or listening to your group leader/fighting pair).
So, which country is it then? Because you're saying "we will attack..." but see if there was an offensive from Europe to Russia, it's highly likely I would be fighting, but I suspect you wouldn't.
So perhaps stop it with the childish warmongering.
Edit and yes, there is a need to wait for Ukraine EU membership, which there's attempts to rush through, but international politics don't work as willy-nilly as online forums. You can't pretend to ignore global geopolitics.
No, I just believe that the EU will break the law and attack, like members already did in Libya and Iraq.
I can also say that I was not the one talking about fantasies.
Is there a reason for that? UN article 51 seems to allow support of other countries if they are attacked.
To compare Libya and Iraq to an all out attack on Russia by some imagine combined European pan-national military is just... ugh, too naive for me to even be care about writing a breakdown for.
Enjoy your weekend
Kudos on your mental fortitude. The level is stupidity that guy is showing nearly broke me.
Thanks.
I've had training. And I'm not talking about my military training, but the several years I spent in customer service.