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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Israel bombed Iran because they know they won't be able to respond. They called them out on their bluff again and Iran did nothing again. Israel has been humiliating Iran for the past several years and they basically dismantled Iran's entire foreign strategy in the region, a strategy they've spent billions and decades working on.

A global war can only happen when the opposing side has enough weight to fight back and bring allies alongside it. Iran doesn't have this capability.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except it didn't. If anything their response proves my point. It is such a weak response compared what Israel did to them. Think about it, what did their retaliation actually accomplish? Most of the missles didn't hit, and the very few that did hit didn't hit any strategic targets. They literally only hit random some random buildings and caused some civilian injuries... That's it. Compared to what Israel did to them that's nothing.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Keep in mind in their first attack they targeted the Mossad headquarters and Nevatim base. Israel said they were aiming at civilians, and actually arrested the journalist trying to find where the rockets hit (only democracy in the middle east, amiright?)

so I would be skeptical regarding whatever Israel says about what was hit or how successful it was.

the truth is that whenever Israel decides to randomly bomb and murder people on another country, they will get hit by a barrage that makes their iron dome useless.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

You can't hide damage of that significance. Both Israel and Iran lie about the extent of the damages, but damage can be verified. You can't hide dead commanders or hide from satellite images. We tend to have a good idea of what happened shortly after.

In this case, Iran has admitted to a lot of the damages that Israel claimed and a few other of their claims can be verified with satellite imagery. However, Israel hasn't admitted to any strategic damage by Iran nor has there been any verification for the damages that aimed for. Iran can say they aimed for something, that doesn't mean they did. They can claim they hit something, doesn't mean they did.

I understand being skeptical of Israel because they're a dubious source, especially when they're one of the parties involved. That being said, we're at the point where we can tell that Iran's missle barrage yesterday didn't do much.

makes their iron dome useless

Just an FYI, the Iron Dome is not designed to intercept missles. It's designed to intercept short range rockets and artillery. This means that the Iron Dome probably wasn't used at all yesterday. Instead, other systems like Arrow, David's Sling, and THAAD were used since these systems were actually designed to counter missles.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iran was planning a massive response, but Israel sabotaged them by blowing up the military command meeting and drone striking missiles sites. Instead of 300 Missiles launched in response it was only 100.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I doubt the full 300 would've done much tbh. Only like 7 of the 100 or so missles actually hit anything this time around. So if we triple the results for 300 missles, that's only 21 hitting targets. Even if we become generous and assume an extra 7 hit anything to even the number of successful hits to 30, that's still only a 10% success rate. Sure, 30 targets is way more impactful than 7, but that's not exactly enough to even shock Israel, especially when you consider how weak the payload is on these missles.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Last time 300 missiles overwhelmed Israel’s defenses and they needed US and Jordanian support to take out most of the attack. Both sides learned from the last skirmish.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Countries do this in general because those projectiles are violating these countries' sovereignty. Iran doesn't ask these countries for permission to have their missiles go through their airspace, they just do it. No country is going to allow another country to endanger it's people by sending through its borders without their consent, so they just take them down.

In this case, Jordan is under the protection of the US and they have American bases and use American systems. So when something like this happens, Jordan works in coordination with the US to take the missles over its borders.