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You know, intolerant people are people too, just like you and me. They have feelings, hopes and dreams. Biggots are also human beings. Hell, even nazis are people too. If listening to this bothers you, I don't know how to break this to you...
I guess you're not wrong, but people or not, fuck Nazis.
Agreed.
I wouldn’t even go as far as to group people into tolerant vs intolerant binaries. Everyone is intolerant about something. Everyone has boundaries. You wouldn’t just let someone walk into your house and start using your toothbrush. But that’s not very controversial!
One of the biggest issues with tolerance vs intolerance debates is the unequal burden of tolerance. When it comes to housing, this is reflected in the classic NIMBY vs YIMBY debates. Many many people complain about NIMBYs but are actually NIMBYs themselves: they just want someone else to bear the burden. For example, they may be pro-early-release for a sex offender while not wanting that sex offender to live in their neighbourhood.
This applies to all kinds of issues. People may be pro-immigration but are they pro-giving-up-their-job to a (lower paid) immigrant? Probably not.
We as a society were much more tolerant and welcoming towards immigrants before we put all of our social welfare programs in place. In a society with no minimum wage, no social programs, and few/no regulations to limit housing development, there is no cost to immigration because immigrants have to claw their way up from the very bottom. That was how the big cities in Canada and the U.S. were built: by immigrants who choose to come here (fleeing brutal oppression and lack of opportunity) and make their own fortunes.
Exactly, like white chocolate eaters. To anyone who prefers white chocolate to dark chocolate, fuck you, you're the problem!
Agreed.
I had to look up NIMBY. If anyone else is curious, it's: Not In My BackYard!
Oh yeah, that's like a common household term for me.
I get that they’re people, but honestly, I kinda reject them, even though in an ironic way I guess most of them wouldn’t have a problem with me if they didn’t know this about me. I usually keep to myself. But I do want to accept that for all their faults they also have a right to live, just for my own sake.
I think it's valid to want to defend those who you feel compassion and closeness to from those you perceive as threats.
Yeah, absolutely. I think what's kinda interesting about that though is that's essentially exactly what racist cops are doing, and wanting to protect people is probably why they joined the force. The problem lies in their perceiving brown people as threats...
Yeah, couldn't agree more. I don't know really know that much about LA cops myself but they have a p bad rep for discrimination of blacks and browns such as myself. I guess they're just following what the higher ups of their organization tell them they have to and conforming their own tribal crowd mentality.
We had similar riots here in Chile back in 2019. I don't blame the people who destroyed my neighborhood or tried to set the apt building I live in on fire (several times) any more than I blame the cops shooting bbs at the crowd wildly and taking out kids' eyes... I was upset at both of these things of course but at the same time I realized how foolish it would be to expect any different from anyone of the same background, social ties, world view and living situation.
It's crazy how reasonable and kind people with different world views can perceive the exact same situation as inspiring cathartic liberation or the end of civilized society.