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I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.

I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.

I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.

Even a pop up that says "we need you to donate please" would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.

Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.

In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (22 children)

In this thread:

  1. An OP that doesn’t understand how their network is working
  2. People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source. I have yet to see anyone recommend Emby.
  3. “Tailscale will solve all your problems!” Great - how do I make that work on an LG TV that’s 100 miles away?
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Seriously. I hate when people assume default settings are the only option. You don't even need a Plex account to set up Plex. It will just be less seamless and user friendly. Never adopt the server, configure these via localhost (ssh tunnel works) and then set up your networking. Don't even need to update it, it will run for as long as the database stays stable. Which should be years or more.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Actual answer for 3:

  • put jellyfin behind a proper reverse proxy. Ideally on a separate host / hardware firewall, but nginx on the same host works fine as well.
  • create subdomain, let's say sub.yourdomain.com
  • forward traffic, for that subdomain ONLY, to jellyfin in your reverse proxy config
  • tell your relatives to put sub.yourdomain.com into their jellyfin app

All the fear-mongering about exposing jellyfin to the internet I have seen on here boils down to either

  • "port forwarding is a bad idea!!", which yes, don't do that. The above is not that. Or
  • "people / bots who know your IP can get jellyfin to work as a 1-bit oracle, telling you if a specific media file exists on your disk" which is a) not an indication for something illegal, and b) prevented by the described reverse proxy setup insofar as the bot needs to know the exact subdomain (and any worthwhile domain-provider will not let bots walk your DNS zone).

(Not saying YOU say that; just preempting the usual folklore typically commented whenever someone suggests hosting jellyfin publicly accessible)

[–] Lazarus@mastodon.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 2 points 9 hours ago

OK, add step above: use wildcard certificate for your domain.

Terminating the TLS connection at your perimeter firewall is standard practice, there's no reason your jellyfin host needs to obtain the certificate.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Thanks.

One of my pet peeves is when people immediately jump to whatever their fanboy program of choice is regardless of if it’s actually the right program to run in the situation given.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)
  1. Open source has high immunity to devs making changes at the expense of user for their benefit because anti-features can be removed. Recommending another proprietary alternative here would be like saying they aught to leave an abusive partner but then recommend someone with the same red flags.
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
  1. It’s also the most complex to set up, and for many people the threshold is “walking your tech-illiterate mother-in-law through side loading it over the phone, because she lives 100 miles away… She’s afraid to touch her computer for anything except email and Facebook. And then resetting her password every 30 days, because she keeps locking herself out of it.” Suddenly the “just fucking sign into Plex and it automatically discovers your server” option becomes a lot more appealing.
[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

My tech-illiterate mom uses my Jellyfin instance with no issues. I sent her a link to the app store, her credentials, my server's hostname and that was it. And once it's set up, Jellyfin is much more straightforward to use than Plex.

Sure Jellyfin has issues and doesn't support as many types of devices, but Plex is far from perfect. I use it like twice a year, and the UI gets more and more confusing with each update IMO.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Jellyfin doesn’t have an app on every App Store. On some, you have to sideload it, by enabling developer mode and connecting to a PC that is running an App Store server. Then the TV downloads it from the PC.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

Jellyfin is the most complex to set up, right? (Just making sure I’m reading this correctly)

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you Internet stranger for reminding me of this sketch.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

From a time when the jerk motion was used en mass. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2jvcd5

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 20 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

3 - An OpenWRT router with Wireguard connecting to another router 1000 miles away will do the trick.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Great; how do I get my Mother to do that over the phone?

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not a cake walk, but I've something similar for a friend who can barely turn on his PC.

The OpenWRT router was fully configured before shipping it to him and the existing router's needed Wireguard port was opened by me using the Comcast Android app. All he had to do was connect his TV to a new wifi network. That wasn't easy, but he ultimately succeeded.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, so you didn’t walk someone through it; you shipped them something preconfigured.

That’s not going to scale as I share out my server.

That’s not going to scale...

How many mothers do you have?

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Where do I find Wireguard for my LG TV?

You can’t expect my relatives living 100+ miles away to start monkeying around with their router. That be like asking you to set the spark plug timing correctly using a timing gun.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Did you even read the link? You don't need it on every device. It's not really that difficult to understand.

I AM A 48 YEAR OLD FORMER FUCKING TRUCK DRIVER FOR FUCKS SAKE, and yet, I still managed to set up tailscale on my phone and a computer, and then access my stuff that ISNT running tailscale in any way, shape or form, from my phone, simply because I decided to figure it the fuck out.

Stop being so damned lazy.

I am so fucking tired of this "cater to the lowest common denominator" bullshit.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Stop being so dam lazy and do all the things you pay someone else to do.

Mow the lawn. Fix the plumbing. Run new electrical. Neuter the cat. Clean your teeth. Do your taxes.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I do all of those things except neuter animals. Most rural folks do.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

If #3 is your use case, then yeah, pony up the fees. Or learn to code I guess.

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