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The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

 A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 178 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel's current actions say this wasn't a simple "what if..." contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

November, you say? I wonder what happened in November that caused Netanyahu to be emboldened to the point of planning Iranian assassinations...

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheLiveFive@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago

Yeah it's not that Israel is planning this, it's that this is the plan of Israel the whole thing is this plan.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 96 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

I hate that USA is enabling them, and at the same time being hipocritical about wanting a peaceful solution. Cut their funding if you want to stop them. Freeze their assets like NATO did with Russia. Act, don’t talk.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I hate that USA is enabling them,

USA is just as guilty as the genocidal cult, perhaps even more so. Somehow I have more sympathy for the brainwashed than the profiteering.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It would take one phone call from the President, and the genocide would stop. Biden could have done it, and Trump still can. I don’t see the US governments unwavering support of Israel ever ending.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You'll need to elaborate if you want to actually contribute.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

The president of the US doesn't have their hand up the PM of Israel's ass. This is especially true of Biden who was known to be on his way out either way. We can withdraw support but its difficult for the US pres to do so unilaterally when Israel is politically popular on both side. Given the lack of power to make it stick such a phone call from Biden would have been ignored in favor of waiting for a change of regime.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Who upvotes this shit? Are people here really this naive?

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t see how that is naive at all. We prop Israel up. If the president calls Bibi and threatens to stop all aid, unless they imposed a ceasefire, it would happen. They have so much power, tech and weaponry because we give it to them. If we pointed the barrel of the most powerful military on earth at them, they would cease immediately.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

This will never happen tho. People don't become president without complete subjugation to the hegemonic narrative (including zionism). Complete fantasy.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

Oh I never said it would happen. It will never happen.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There we again with the israel has superior inteligence that can't never make mistakes bs.

Israel has many impressive operations but it doesn't mean everything bad happen in israel is just according to a plan

[–] AwakenedAce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure there were reputable news articles right after Oct 7th that said that Israel's intelligence was basically aware but decided to ignore it/dismiss it. So in this case they willfully ignored it for some reason, I wonder why..

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 10 hours ago

They downplayed the threat, it's not the first time they did just like Russia was also warned about Kursk offensive and still let it happen

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/20/revealed-russia-anticipated-kursk-incursion-months-in-advance-seized-papers-show

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I mean, that's not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran's nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they're tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.

The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout. And obviously killing civilians, which the scientists and their families are, but obviously Israel has shown in the past they don't care about that.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every military makes plans for any contingency,

In defense, to respond to an attack. The word contingency is important.

If the military is planning acts of aggression then that is called preparing for war.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Militaries tend to do both this things.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

Only one is defensible.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's definitely true for imperialist countries like Israel, the US and Russia.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

netanyahu is using the aggression as a way to stave off his own criminal trials prior to him being re-elected.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck, also explains why Netenyahu jumped at the opportunity as soon as he avoided having his government dissolved by vote. Fuuuuck this is so much evil bullshit.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

I strongly recommend you to listen to Ilan Pappe. He describes well how Israels society has deep internal rifts as the narrative of Zionism ultimately failed to build a cohesive society.

So ultimately Israel needs the eternal war for two main reasons:

  1. To keep the support by its western lapdogs up, by presenting itself as the eternal victim under war.
  2. To keep the internal pressure contained by the necessity to hold together because of war.

See for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9rr3j7vZGo

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They have been bombing Iran for years, OC these lunatics had these plans already.