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Bezos wedding: Venice protestors claim 'enormous victory' after venue change (www.bbc.com)

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"We are very proud of this! We are nobodies, we have no money, nothing!" Tommaso Cacciari, from a group calling itself No Space for Bezos, told the BBC.

"We're just citizens who started organising and we managed to move one of the most powerful people in the world - all the billionaires - out of the city."

The wedding kicks off later this week, and has a star-studded guest list of the rich and famous that is rumoured to include Kim Kardashian, Mick Jagger and Leonardo diCaprio, as well as several of the Trumps.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No matter how one looks at that assertion, it's just plain fucking wrong.

Did slave owners build Venice? No. Rich Romans? Also no. Someone who isn't a slave owner but worked all his subjects to the bone? Nope as well.

[–] plyth@feddit.org -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You have it backwards. Do I miss the /s?

Did slave owners build Venice? No.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_slave_trade

Rich Romans? Also no.

This is further supported by documentation on the so-called "apostolic families", the twelve founding families of Venice who elected the first doge, who in most cases traced their lineage back to Roman families

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Republic_of_Venice

Bezos doesn't come from a rich family

Ted was a Danish American unicyclist born in Chicago to a family of Baptists.

Ted struggled with alcohol and with his finances. Jacklyn left her husband to live with her parents, filing for divorce in June 1965 when Jeff was 17 months old.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos

Bezos is a rich trader, like the Venetians. Compared to them he doesn't look that bad.

Downvoters, these are facts and OP is wrong. You should't build your convictions on lies. Find valid reasons for the things you want to do.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Venice as a city predates the independent republic by roughly 2 centuries

tradition and the available evidence have led several historians to agree that the original population of Venice consisted of refugees who were fleeing successive waves of Germanic and Hun invasions. (...) Some late Roman sources reveal the existence of fishermen, on the islands in the original marshy lagoons, who were referred to as incolae lacunae ("lagoon dwellers").

By your logic, Bezos built Washington, which is where Amazon started

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By your logic, people visit Venice for the fisher village huts.

If you don't see what the elite does, how can you live in an equal society? Then nobody does those things and the society crumbles or those who do become the next elite.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's the people who build stuff. The elites control the resources, but they don't build shit. Ordering stuff to be done doesn't make you a builder, just as commissioning a portrait doesn't make you a painter.

People can come together and build big things without elites, kings or bosses sitting down and telling everyone what to do. Just because societies that greatly limit the power of the elites no longer exist, having been crushed, doesn't mean they don't work.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know. I was not prepared for a .world community to demand and not oppose that way of thinking.

Ironic. Venice was commissioned by people like Bezos

Fine with me.

People can come together and build big things without elites, kings or bosses sitting down and telling everyone what to do. Just because societies that greatly limit the power of the elites no longer exist, having been crushed, doesn’t mean they don’t work.

Could. Hating Bezos instead of coming together and start building is the mental trap I try to point out in my other comments that is not accepted. Right now people need commissioning if they keep thinking the way they think, and they don't want to hear it.

There are pockets that work, like Wikipedia or Burning Man. But they grew slowly and are not blueprints to get other projects done.