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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure how they would scale

Also avoid Odyssee unless you are a nazis

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People keep saying they want an alternative to YouTube, but then reject every alternative that exists.

Odyssee and other YouTube alternatives tend to host far right content because that content was banned on YouTube, so those creators flocked to the alternative platforms. The sites themselves aren't exactly encouraging that content, it's just where people end up due to the loose rules. The best way to fight extremism on an alternative platform is to post less extreme content and drown out the less desirable content.

That's basically what happened here on Lemmy. At the start, it was mostly tankies and far left extremists, and gradually it became more mainstream as more mainstream leftists ditched Reddit and joined Lemmy.

If you want an alternative to YouTube to succeed, you need to use alternative platforms that already exist.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

In the case of Odyssee it was founded by a far right extremest. It also isn't decentralized at all so you can't easily stand up a different instance.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I assume you're talking about Kauffman, who is the founder of LBRY, but that relationship ended when LBRY lost a lawsuit and Odysee was acquired. It is decentralized, using arweave for video hosting and a blockchain for video metadata.

The main issue w/ Odysee is its near complete lack of moderation, which allows extremists, conspiracy theorists, and other undesirables to earn money. This is because Odysee gives creators the power to moderate their channels, unlike YouTube where most of that is reserved for the platform itself. Odysee is about as free-speech as you get, and that unfortunately allows less desirable content.

My understanding is that Odysee is essentially what you get if you have P2P (not federated) PeerTube w/ a profit motive.