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CNN data guru Harry Enten broke down the latest polling in the Democratic Party on views toward Israel and the Palestinians on Wednesday and marveled at the massive shift in attitudes, declaring he’s “rarely” seen anything like it in his many years of looking at polling data.

Enten spoke to anchor Kate Bolduan in the context of Zohran Mamdani’s sweeping victory over ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s Democratic Party mayoral primary last week.

"What are we talking about here? All right, who do Democrats sympathize more with: Israelis or Palestinians? In 2017, the Democratic Party was a pro-Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the Israelis by 13 points—more with the Israelis than the Palestinians. But look at this sea change. Now, Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians by 43 points.Oh my God! That is a change in the margin of 56 points over the course of just eight years. So all of a sudden, it’s the pro-Palestinian position that actually reigns supreme in Democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And that is part of the reason why Mamdani was able to do so well in this primary, because those attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats"

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 64 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

I mean, there wasn't an incredibly well documented, active genocide happening 8 years ago.

That has a lot of sway on public opinion.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago

It was an open air prison poised for a genocide then. I’m glad people are realizing that the Israeli is as evil as anything and they shield it with a blanket of “antisemitism” to shut everyone up. That old chestnut no longer is working.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 52 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

There was, in Palestine. In 2014, Israel murdered like 1,400 Palestinians. This is nowhere near new for Israel, it is SOP for 70 years. The difference is that social media platforms gave us a direct view that corporate media actively chooses to not show us, as you pointed to.

[–] Devadander@lemmy.world 34 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Reporting almost 60,000 killed in this current war. That’s over 40x as many. Not downplaying the 1,400 but let’s not pretend this isn’t a great escalation compared to the atrocities of the past

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 17 hours ago

I became aware in the last 2-3 years of the nineties, but I was always drawn to places that discussed these things.

[–] Prancingpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Did you drop an /s ?

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: Iraq and Afghanistan

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 12 hours ago

nonsensical whataboutism, find me contemporary sources calling either of those wars genocides or face my wrath