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Just another reminder that being a Nazi is now acceptable political beliefs to MAGA

Edit: now $28K

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[–] tomatolung@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (4 children)

https://nriglobe.com/news/global-nri-news/nri-commentator-pinesap-fired-after-defending-fascism-in-viral-jubilee-debate-with-mehdi-hasan/

The Jubilee episode pitted British-American journalist Mehdi Hasan, renowned for his incisive debating style, against 20 self-proclaimed far-right conservatives, including Estelle. The discussion tackled divisive issues such as U.S. immigration policies, President Donald Trump’s leadership, the role of the U.S. Constitution, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Estelle, using his online persona “Pinesap,” emerged as a lightning rod when he unapologetically embraced fascist ideologies during a tense exchange with Hasan.

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Estelle further advocated for autocracy over democracy, arguing that the U.S. Constitution should be amended or ignored when it “fails to serve us.” When challenged on whether Democrats could similarly disregard the Constitution, he replied, “Absolutely not,” exposing inconsistencies in his stance. His comments, coupled with his refusal to unequivocally condemn antisemitism, fueled widespread condemnation online, particularly among NRI communities who viewed his rhetoric as a betrayal of shared values.

In the wake of the episode, Estelle announced on X, under the handle @FeelsGuy2003, that he had been fired from his role at VeUP Ltd, a tech firm with operations in the U.S., UK, Europe, and the Middle East. Claiming his termination was due to “political discrimination,” he launched a GiveSendGo fundraiser to support himself, alleging financial hardship. However, investigations by online sleuths have cast doubt on his narrative. A Threads post alleged that Estelle’s employment history was fabricated, with no verifiable evidence of his role at VeUP Ltd. The post further linked him to white nationalist Nick Fuentes’ network since 2022 and a fringe group dubbed the “Remilia cult,” purportedly connected to Elon Musk under the alias “Timeless Martian.” These unverified claims have intensified scrutiny of Estelle’s motives

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Figures Pinesap would be lying about his life. If the right can't expose conspiracies they form secret societies and make conspiracies. They yearn for secrets like Michael Scott wants to be included in an inside joke one day. Just desperate to be special and mad at everyone else that they aren't.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What are those NRI communities referenced? I don't think that I'm familiar with the term.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Guessing it's like sovereign citizens? They sometimes claim imagined tribal membership to argue their immunity from the law.

Huh, no. Apparently he says he's of Indian descent, as I read the definition. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/travel/things-to-do/understanding-the-difference-between-nri-non-resident-indian-and-oci-overseas-citizen-of-india/articleshow/107798608.cms

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I believe several replies sent that maybe you weren't aware did

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was getting errors from my app (Connect); It didn't look like my comment went through! Thanks for letting me know.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 6 days ago

Hi, I've had the same things happen more than a handful of times, and it's frustrating. You are so welcome, my friend!

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

thats exactly what we see. we can ignore the constitution, how dare you ignore the constitution. we can eliminate everything you put up, you can't just get rid of the things we put up. How can they avoid cognitive dissonance.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

This video is a very good view into the values of the right: they're not hypocritical at all. They genuinely believe that they have the right to rule based on who they are.

They are not conflicted about this at all; they believe that bad things happen because the wrong people are in charge. That's what they actually mean by criticizing things like DEI: the wrong people have been installed in the halls of power, and they seek to "correct" it.

There is no cognitive dissonance to solve for, because they do think that they should be treated special based on who they are. They sometimes co-opt the language of the left, but they don't believe it; it's merely a way to communicate to the unwashed masses that their concerns are being heard.