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Regarding return to office policy, I hear many speculations and reasons hypothesized. Mostly by employees who don't really know and who had no choice in it.

I would like to know is if there are any lemmings out there who have been involved in these talks.

What was discussed?

How is something like this coordinated amongst others businesses even rivals.

What are the high level factors that have gone into the decision?

Bonus points: is it even possible for employees to prevent or reverse these policies at this point?

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[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There was no discussion. The CEO likes it this way. His bootlickers invented a bunch of bullshit justifications in order to make the RTO rules seem to have reasons, but there isn't one other than the CEO likes it this way.

People have tried to discuss it reasonably but it has become clear that it is an emotional matter for the CEO and discussing it like adults is not possible.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CEOs basically have to do it, and most want to. And they think “hey I’m the CEO so I must be doing something right - my way is clearly the best way.” And that’s that in their minds. Hustle culture goes all the way to the top CEOs in the world. They just use different language, like “you must be driven, you need to want it more, if you don’t move aggressively to succeed then your competitors will…” they truly believe it’s the correct and virtuous life. To force it on others, in their mind, is doing them a favor.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess they don’t, I was just thinking of how their job is essentially meeting and talking with lots of people, including inside and outside the company, and this benefits from in-person interactions moreso than, say, a programmer’s job does. It would have been more accurate if I’d said a CEO’s job is easier to do well and more enjoyable when everyone is in the office.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I completely agree! I would then ask that the CEO force his bootlickers back into the office, but leave everyone else alone. It's not like he would ever degrade himself as to speak to the unwashed peasantry that is the employees.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Well that’s for sure. But this is where their egos go big. They aren’t about optimizing just their job and leaving others alone. No, if it’s their way, it must be the best way. After all, how could anyone want or need anything other than they do? Unless something’s wrong with them! /s