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[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 64 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Looking forward to seeing EU alternatives for Starlink

[–] hark@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Alternatives would be great! My only concern is the number of satellites that have to be continually launched while older satellites are burned up after just five years. That's thousands of satellites per service provider having to be continually replaced. Seems wasteful, but maybe I'm thinking the resource usage is greater than it really is in the grand scheme of things.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

That five year figure is the time it takes to deorbit if the satellite goes dead, not the lifespan, from my understanding.

[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 0 points 1 day ago

Well if Europe doesn’t do this, US or China will regardless and they won’t care about leaving junk in the space. So it’s a matter of who will profit off that. And also, the EU is doing a lot for the environment already. Maybe it’s time for other countries like India to stop throwing trash directly into rivers now? We live on the same planet. Even if EU achieves the zero-emission state, it only accounts for 5% of the population in the world, so it won’t change that much on a global scale if other countries continue refusing to cooperate

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Honestly, someone hurry up and launch an alternative! Chinese are setting up one but I wouldn't trust them either.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The French government just invested a load of money in Eutelsat to kickstart this about a month or so ago

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago

Quick, someone not france!

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I think they should be taken down or taken over by another entity. They were launched under the premise they were a utility and it turns out they're being used military.

I dont mean the internet access itself but the giving and striping of access to suit a military agenda goes beyond the pervue of an organization claiming to be an ISP or commercial utility.

[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For starters, the Great Chinese Firewall blocks access even to lemmy

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It depends, maybe they like the contents of some instances like this one

Although on some blocks I can't disagree:

[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The big instances are blocked (like yours, i.e. lemmy.world) while the small ones that the CCP didn’t catch up with yet (like mine) are working fine. It’s a censorship went wrong moment

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 7 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, my bad. It was .ml that’s blocked. Kinda ironic given that it’s one of he most pro-CCP instances out there

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you mean? Chinese people cant host a lemmy server? Or just the main servers worldwide arent available there?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone can host, but if you can't federate it's of very limited value.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Oooh interesting, network bisection problems.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't even watch porn with Chinese internet, westerners won't survive a day on using that internet without a VPN.

[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually porn is what makes many Chinese start using the VPNs too

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

yup, they moved to PROXIES, and anti-detect browsers much like reddits getting more sophisticated detection, china is always trying to find a way to detect these methods. from what ive heard on the same forum that ban evades reddit.