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An interim update from the EHRC, published in May, said that “trans women (biological men) should not be permitted to use the women’s facilities and trans men (biological women) should not be permitted to use the men’s facilities, as this will mean that they are no longer single-sex facilities”.

However, a response from Museums Galleries Scotland (MGS), which supports around 455 non-national museums and is funded by the Scottish Government, said EHRC’s proposals may “force some museums to close”, or “risk leaving trans people with no facilities at all” if changes could not be made.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The fun thing is tha t by combining them you reduce the waiting tolime overall for everyone together, while making it a bit longer for the now privileged.

[–] illi@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This. Most of the time women have to wait in long lines while men's room is empty. There were times women would loose patience and just went to man's room because why not.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Most women will not be using the urinal, though, which is why men's bathrooms are often much quicker to get through.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

This is why it's now becoming standard design practice in the design of restrooms for large public buildings to simply build the women's restroom larger than the men's. This is really the classic "equality vs. equity." Equality means building both restrooms the same size. Equity means realizing that to deliver the same level of service - the same average wait time, the women's restrooms probably should just be built larger and with more total stalls. So you build out your restrooms with the number of stalls in the women's room being about 40% or so greater than the total number of stalls and urinals in the men's.

[–] illi@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

That too. But especially with smaller bathrooms you have situations with lines to women's while men's being just empty

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't designating a stall or two in the women's as pee only, so that the pee'rs can go quicker without having to wait for people doin other stuff, basically rectify that.... without needing to gum up the more efficient urinal situation men get? That way they'd have that 'fast lane' option, just like guys, while guys could still have the more convenient-for-their-body urinals to use. Maybe get an engineer to make like a pee-troth for women to squat along for peeing en masse, and designate half the bathroom to that, like how urinals are done in mens rooms.

Equity should generally be about improving the situation for the disadvantaged demo, without dragging everyone else down, no? Not causing added issue for existing people / setups is also an argument for lettin trans people go wherever they're comfortable -- cause it wouldn't make sense to have to setup a bathroom for every gender identity out there.

Maybe get an engineer to make like a pee-troth for women to squat along for peeing en masse

I think the word you're looking for is "trough." I can't see that working out well for most women. We'd still have to take off our pants and underwear, and asking us to do that in a room full of people is more than many would be comfortable with.

Besides, it seriously underestimates how many of us are on our periods at any given time. Consider that periods last about a week and occur every month. Not counting those with medications or health conditions that prevent periods, are currently pregnant, or are post-menopausal, that means about 1 in 4 women are actively menstrating at any given time. We're going to prefer private stalls to take care of such needs. If somebody on their period chose to use such a trough, seeing blood splattered over it would probably discourage the rest of us from using it anyway.

Yeah, stalls take longer. But they help keep private things, well, private.