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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Every single person on the planet just happened to be born in some particular place, and every place has some particular set of people who at some point drew some arbitrary lines and decreed that the area within the lines was a country and gave it a name.

The idea that happening to have been born within the confines of one arbitrary set of lines rather than another is something of which to be proud is blatantly stupid.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml -1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The philosophy behind that is that only individual choices matter.

What you're saying is logical, but only if you're on-board with an individualist worldview to start.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

You can be proud of your community and others you identify with without putting that pride on arbitrary bounds of organization regardless of how the organization is ran.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

ridiculous and unproductive navel gazing, the basic unit of human consciousness is the individual

If we were a hivemind species your vapid dilletance might be valid but I really don't see a purpose in theoretical psychology.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is that literally all you can bring? I thought we were having a discussion here...

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Most people don't take it as a cultural dogma that the individual is the be-all-and-end-all

If you're an angry autist with that cultural dogma, I'm not gonna try talk you out if it. Most people find it easy to be proud of their ancestors or family or country.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, you think I'm a patriot? Media literacy is fucking dead...

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

You think I think you're a