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The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

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[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"I used to have support for the Native Americans, but then a tribe massacred an outpost on the land that was slowly being carved from them by colonizers. Now I've lost all goodwill for their struggle"

The indigenous, oppressed peoples proceed to get wiped out and the colonizing states take over the entire land mass

This type of violence does not need to celebrated. It should be mourned as tragic. Its perpetrators condemned.

But so many are applying fairness or rules to a conflict that has neither.

If you create the conditions for war and terrorism, do not be surprised when war and terrorism come.

[–] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

well put.

oppress a population until they fight back and then yell terrorism

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

This type of violence does not need to celebrated. It should be mourned as tragic. Its perpetrators condemned.

So... then how about you simply condemn the perpetrators instead of making excuses for them and blaming the victims.

People that have been conditioned to hate Israel really can't help themselves can they? You must know how terrible it looks that you're trying to hamasplain this shit, but you literally can't stop yourself from doing it can you?

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

If you create the conditions for war and terrorism, do not be surprised when war and terrorism come.d

What do you think raping and massacring people at a music festival is going to do?

That clearly isn't "fighting back". It's not war, its not even terrorism. They aren't achieving any sort of win, or working towards independence.

This is honestly a disgusting comment.

[–] Farnswirth@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

indigenous, oppressed peoples

Uh... you're gonna have to clarify which side you mean here.

While it's pretty clear Native Americans were in America first- not so much with the current belligerents.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Palestine was already a country in 1947. Not so much for Israel.

[–] ZenkorSoraz@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

*British Mandate

[–] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

If you decide to START history in 1947 you might miss out on over a thousand years of Muslim aggression towards Jews.

I'm no Quran expert but people seem to talk about numerous passages where Muhammad went on one rant or another about how awful they were.

https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/roark/hate_jews.html

Also the regional conflict goes way farther than the 20th century.

https://www.profolus.com/topics/origin-causes-israeli-palestinian-conflict-explained/

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

Both Arabs and Proto-Jews originate from the area now called Isreal.