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Too lazy to write this down again so I’ll quote myself:
So let’s say being a member of Hamas automatically makes you a legitimate target and thus okay to kill, even if you’re a civilian or working e.g. in the health ministry. This is the current Zionist stance that Germany supports.
Almost every Israeli Jewish civilian has served in the IDF, many of them are currently reservists. By that logic, October 7 was not a "terror attack“ because most people killed were associated with the IDF or with the terrorist Israeli government if they work with them or cooperate, hence they were legitimate targets. This can be concluded as we have learned that a certain amount of "collateral damage“ is to be expected in modern warfare, which includes elders and children.
Hence, by the logic of the Zionists October 7 was a legitimate military action. If you’re disgusted by my conclusion, well that’s the disgusting logic of the Zionists.
I am disgusted with your logic chiefly because you're implying that I approve of the current Israeli government. Which I don't. Weirdly enough, people can have more nuanced opinions than "Israel bad" or "Palestinians bad". You should try it some time.
Which Israeli gov't do you approve of?
Well as long as you don’t distance yourself from Zionism and all its implications that is the logical framework you’re operating in when you say "Israel has a right to exist“ or "Israel has a right to defend itself“, because Israel cannot exist without genocide and it defends itself against the victims of colonization.
Palestinians are people, which can be good or bad, same as Israelis. Israel as a state otoh is a settler colony that commits genocide. As easy as it is to say Nazi Germany bad or Apartheid South Africa or Soviet Russia bad, it is to say Israel bad, at least for me.
A state that can only exist through the subjugation, theft and murder of another people has no right to exist.