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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (19 children)

I don’t expect a dairy farmer to know better, but of course he means “plant-based”, not “vegan”. “Plant-based” is a functional description, while “vegan” is a set of moral values and their ethical consequences.

Since the farmer is talking about the outcome as opposed to the justification is there anything functionally different between "plant-based" and "vegan" here? As in would the diet of the vegan and someone eating only "plant based" look different in any way?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (18 children)

Neither of them really describe "a" diet. I don't consume alcohol. Is that a diet? You don't consume antifreeze, even though it tastes really really good. Is that a diet? "Not consuming animal products" is not a diet.

"Plant-based" is a characteristic of an infinite number of diets or other practices; those that exclude animal products. "Vegan" is a characteristic of a person; one that conducts themselves according to a specific moral perspective on interactions with animals. A diet is vegan iff (ie if and only if) there was a moral question in its practice. It describes the justification, and using it to talk about only the outcome is exactly what I am saying is incorrect.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Neither of them really describe “a” diet.

A diet is the term used to encompass what someone consumes for food or drink. Its a basic term with a clear definition.

“Plant-based” is a characteristic of an infinite number ....

Okay, I got it now. You're not really making any salient point. You're just splitting hairs with wordplay and being intentionally obtuse and apparently being unable to answer a straight question. You're coming off as incredibly smug and arrogant.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I answered in the most straightforward way I could think to. I'm sorry.

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