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I disagree. There was no risk to the public here. The police's entire job was to protect these people. Regardless of mental state, police's job is to de-escalate and save the lives of these people.
I'd change my mind if it turns out this was international best practice, but I think that's unlikely.
The dude running after a woman with a knife wasn't a danger to the public?
Seriously?
A domestic violence incident. I mean the wider public.
Was this person not someone who deserved to be protected?
That's my point. They killed the person they were there to protect.
The police had already shot him though. You'd think that would satisfy your thirst for punishment.
I think you'll find it's standard practice anywhere to shoot someone that's advancing towards you with a knife.
Every time something like this happens, a bunch of people who've clearly led very sheltered lives will come out and say they should have used tazers, or pepper spray, or hugs or whatever, regardless of how realistic that statement is.
Some people just aren't able to be talked down.
The police are supposedly trained to handle people with knives without shooting them.
This isn't a surprise knife attack, it was the entire reason for the call. I'd expect some standard approach that plans for the scenario of the person turning on police.
100% me, hence my comment that I'd happily change my mind if a review found they did this as well as they could. But the report the other day called out police as doing this poorly, and learning little in the past 10 years. Hence they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.
Why is he comparing people who have led sheltered lives with supposedly trained police force. The police should most definitely not act like people who lead sheltered lives. Their entire job is to deal with these types of situations.
I very much think the response we saw here would be a standard one across police forces worldwide.
You are very wrong. It's extremely rare for the police to gun down citizens in Europe.
To be fair; it is also extremely rare in NZ.
55 in 108 years; that is just over 0.5 per year.
I'd like to see that plotted year over year.
Normalised to population
Exactly. Also broken down by the parties in government.
Then why bother attending if they're just going to shoot people dead.
I've been joking at work for years that we can no longer follow the best practice and how it's now about finding the least-worst practise. Its a shame to think the police might be the following the same M. O.
(Mostly sarcasm)
Because someone would get brutally murdered with a knife if they didn't show up?
Which is worse than getting brutally murdered with a gun?