this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2025
166 points (94.6% liked)

World News

49112 readers
1304 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Under this scenario Russia would have military and economic control of occupied Ukraine under its own governing body, imitating Israel’s de facto rule of Palestinian territory seized from Jordan in 1967.

...

Witkoff, who is also tasked by Trump with bringing peace to the Middle East, is understood to support the idea, which the Americans believe circumvents barriers in the Ukrainian constitution to ceding territory without holding an “all-Ukraine” referendum.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The way to deal with a raw deal is to say "no deal". Appeasement of tyrants and bullies just strengthens their position and encourages them to take more. They'll never stop, because they're never actually satisfied, there is no such thing as having "taken enough" and eventually they're going to make up reasons they need more. It never ends. That's why we must fight tyranny to the death, to the last man, never give in, and be willing to die for what we believe in. Maybe what we believe in is wrong, but it's better than living in a world you can't accept anymore. Vichy France is not a good place to be. We learned these lessons after WW2, we knew tyranny had taken refuge in the Soviet Union and called itself communism, but eventually they too fell, and we thought we had found the answer to it, because we had defeated the Soviet Union with trade and peace and prosperity, we thought we could kill tyranny itself with trade and peace and prosperity. The long peace throughout and afterwards made us lazy and apathetic to the inherent dangers of tyranny and fascism, but nope, it wasn't gone at all, it was festering below the surface and now it's come back, seemingly everywhere all at once. And we're going to have to learn these lessons again and understand why people were willing to die for our freedom.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The way to deal with a raw deal is to say “no deal”.

Obviously the folks in the West Bank are just too stupid to take this advise.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

It's not their fault the entire western world supports Israel's genocidal zionist ideals. They have been put in a no-win situation. By us. We are sometimes the baddies. Just like we were when we genocided the peoples of the Americas and enslaved Africa. I am not trying to excuse whataboutisms going back centuries and millennia. We are not our ancestors, and I am not my government. But we have inherited and participated in the systems they put in place, and no matter how entrenched and complex those things we must continue trying to fix them. Giving up and accepting "the reality" is not an option.