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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago

A rearmed EU will be less dependent upon the US. If we are expecting the US to go bad in the following decades, then EU less dependent upon it might be less likely to partake in pummeling Russia when that happens.

To be honest, if the US and Russia started a war in eg. Kazakhstan or Afghanistan, the EU would most likely not care and I also think it shouldn't. IMO we should stop trading with Israel as well, and I'm not alone here. I doubt after Ukraine even Poland would deign to help with a new war, and even the Israel thing is more of an inertia issue in the EU rather than anything else - not like that absolves anyone.

Ukraine was a European thing because Ukraine was attacked because it was aligning with the EU. Nobody sane in the EU wants war with Russia for the sake of antagonizing Russia. In fact, even the people who don't like Russia are mistrustful and not hateful, as in nobody wants to see Russia fall apart, it's just that its leadership broke so many promises that people think that it is a good idea to expect it to honor any deal or stay at peace.

You weren’t using it, now you are using it. That’s too “at the expense of everything else”.

Sorry, but this is a pet issue of mine, and not even because of the Russian war or even rearmament. Public investment is taking loans from corporations, and giving it to people as wages to do stuff. This drives inflation somewhat, but since it increases wages the people don't feel it, but the loans given to corporations also inflate. This all drives the economy, since people having more money means they spend more, which makes companies compete more for that money, it's all in all a good thing.

What I mean is that even if nothing like this was happening, if we paid a bunch of people to dig a hole, and another bunch of people to fill it up, it would still fuel the economy and make more money for everyone in the EU. Now if we spend that money on not pointless things, like the new military bill that includes a ton of money for infrastructure, building roads, railways, bridges, etc. that's even better.

What I mean is that this is an investment, even if it doesn't look like it. And we wouldn't be doing it since German conservatives would rather we hoard money than spend it, so the same companies can keep winning in the market. Public investment actually makes corporations richer as well, just not always the same corporations, as it also increases competition, so the current winners don't like it.

Think of the New Deal and its results on the US economy. It didn't take money away from other public services, in fact it produced more taxes to fund them. Or look at Russia, it's the same deal as with the war economy, except if done in moderation, inflation won't run away so much that the EUR won't stay convertible like the RUB, and wages, taxes and profits will go up.

OK. I don’t know where the ship is going or what its captain thinks. I’m just seeing that it’s been promised things completely different from what transpired for all my life.

Don't we all, man. The scary part about Russia is that there does not seem to be an endgame, there doesn't seem to be a next chapter to the plan. I wish you guys all luck and a better future.