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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Non-existence.

Just thinking about not existing at all gives me this gnarly feeling of primeval fear.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

If existence were lacking, there would be no me to percieve the lack of existence.

[–] brachypelmide@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Glad to know I'm not alone. Surely there's something behind the veil, right? Right?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe (I believe so, ofc, peep the username 😅), but you can't "know" (and yes, I understand epistemologically "objective truths" are at least somewhat unreachable but if I don't hold the apple whilst on Earth it will inevitably fall), you just have to take it on faith.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Here's a question Id like to know the answer too. Where does consciousness come from? I guess everyone has the same question but more specifically. Is it just like the testing and probing of systems in-between the movement of data or 'matter'?

Say consciousness has an echo. Like if the system was removed but the energy remains and is still experiencing entropy. As it dissipates into infinity could it maybe persist by finding a new system that is similar to the one it use to inhabit? Doesn't it do that constantly. Like the synapses that make up your consciousness arent the same synapses they were before. Consciousness latches on to itself, a continuum of processes that make it a whole. As the energy that makes up consciousness fades into nothing it travels through infinite amounts of states before we can no longer observe it and even after. If it were layered onto a 'new dimension' that was similar enough to the previous one, would it latch?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't know if this is a question that can be answered, and certainly not a question I have an answer to (or at least not a satisfactory one besides "everything comes from the Creator", like, duh, ofc). I can tell you, from personal experience, that consciousness is not the mind, which is shaped by experience and ideology, but is behind it. A consciousness watching a mind watching a body, that's the human experience. Recent studies (with some experimental backing!) talk about 'tubules' in the structure of the neurons and quantum physics which, to me, sound promising, if you're interested (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reduction). And that's all the insight I can provide on the matter, sorry! 😅

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, probably was just dumping on you but its a thought that I wanted to write down. Seize the moment, as they say.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No need to apologise! It's good to ask questions, maybe next time someone more capable will answer. 😅👍

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

I did appreciate your link!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't really believe in an afterlife, as such, but I do hold on to the possibility that conciousness is less about our physical meat and something more quantum mechanical, and thus is a chance that none of the information that makes up our experiences and thoughts is ever just "deleted" it just becomes part of the universe.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Quantum mechanics does not have much to do with consciousness.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Hm, whole being j conscious or sleeping (without dreams), what do you experience?

Nothing.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Meh, something that doesnt exsist doesnt feel... well... anything. Not so bad if you ask me. I get it would suck if youve been gifted with capitalism compatible dopamine receptors.