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Democrat reformists finding out that Democrats will only play dirty against the left. (lemmy.ml)

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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://thedispatch.com/article/how-julian-assange-shaped-the-2016-election/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/15/wikileaks-julian-assange-donald-trump-jr-hillary-clinton/

Why did Assange see Clinton as an enemy?

See above sources.

I'm suggesting that what ensued was hysteria.

Convince me. Because I've posted an overwhelming amount of evidence for you to suggest it was all "hysteria".

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

That's every intelligence agency in the country saying you're wrong.

I am talking about online discourse, not the failure of the state to protect itself from its enemies.

Okay, good, we can agree that Russia is our enemy. That's some common ground we can work from.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

See above sources.

“Assange, despite his claims to scientific journalism, emphasized to me that his mission is to expose injustice, not to provide an even-handed record of events.”

Why did he feel it was so imperative to fight Clinton? It wasn't simply because he thought she was a demon. It wasn't specifically because he was pro-Russia or pro-Trump, even if he did collude with the latter (and former if the Guccifer 2.0 source of leaks is to be believed). I want Buzzfeed's and whatever else's source for the leaked DMs between Wikileaks and Guccifer 2.0, and Roger Stone can fuck off - I don't believe a word he says.

That’s every intelligence agency in the country saying you’re wrong.

I don't see the state operating in my interest or anybody else's, including its own interest. Things have been quite dysfunctional. Intelligence agencies routinely do not properly cite their sources, does that link provide actual sources instead of "trust me bro"?

Okay, good, we can agree that Russia is our enemy. That’s some common ground we can work from.

Russia is hostile to the US, and the US is hostile to Russia. Everybody is in the crossfire of governments than do not represent or serve them.