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Self-Driving Teslas Are Fatally Striking Motorcyclists More Than Any Other Brand: New Analysis (fuelarc.com)
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TL;DR: Self-Driving Teslas Rear-End Motorcyclists, Killing at Least 5

Brevity is the spirit of wit, and I am just not that witty. This is a long article, here is the gist of it:

  • The NHTSA’s self-driving crash data reveals that Tesla’s self-driving technology is, by far, the most dangerous for motorcyclists, with five fatal crashes that we know of.
  • This issue is unique to Tesla. Other self-driving manufacturers have logged zero motorcycle fatalities with the NHTSA in the same time frame.
  • The crashes are overwhelmingly Teslas rear-ending motorcyclists.

Read our full analysis as we go case-by-case and connect the heavily redacted government data to news reports and police documents.

Oh, and read our thoughts about what this means for the robotaxi launch that is slated for Austin in less than 60 days.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Tesla's argument of "well human eyes are like cameras therefore we shouldn't use LiDAR" is so fucking dumb.

Human eyes have good depth perception and absolutely exceptional dynamic range and focusing ability. They also happen to be linked up to a rapid and highly efficient super computer far outclassing anything that humanity has ever devised, certainly more so than any computer added to a car.

And even with all those advantages humans have, we still crash from time to time and make smaller mistakes regularly.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io -3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Anyone who has driven (or walked) into a sunrise/sunset knows that human vision is not very good. I've also driven in blizzards, heavy rain, and fog - all times when human vision is terrible. I've also not seen green lights (I'm colorblind).

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Human vision is very, very, very good. If you think a camera installed to a car is even close to human eyesight, then you are extremely mistaken.

Human eyes are so far beyond it's hard to even quantify.

And bullshit on you not being able to see the lights. They're specifically designed so that's not an issue for colourblind people.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Human vision is very, very, very good. If you think a camera installed to a car is even close to human eyesight, then you are extremely mistaken.

Why are you trying to limit cars to just vision? That is all I have as a human. However robots have radar, lidar, radio, and other options, there is no reasons they can't use them and get information eyes cannot. Every option has limits.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Please read my comments before you respond to them.

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