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[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Educational experts, at least here in Germany, advise against a ban. A phone enables participation for a child among children who‘ll just work around the ban. The net effect will be negative.

[–] RedditIsALostCause@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Ah yes, if [unnamed vague concept] of German “educational” “experts” say so then it MUST both be an 1) honest report of findings, and 2) objectively correct facts. Opinion changed. Boom done.

Just kidding.

Thats stupid, and even if they are real and think so, I think they are stupid then lol.

Banning phones means banning phones. It’s hard for kids to sneak a brick of bright light when they’re in a classroom of their peers facing the teacher, so noone will be missing out on anything so long as the teachers properly enforce the new rule.

I think it likely that there will be more positive outcomes by forcing children to socialize face-to-face which is natural and especially important at that age.

Your comment essentially boils down to: Some people think we should just let kids do whatever they want and don’t worry about discipline, rules, or things needing a “right place and the right time.” You reek of “millennial/ipad-kid parent” lol.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember reading a study not too long ago that said being excluded for not having a phone isn't really happening in schools that have already banned phones.

I'll link it here if I can find it.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't see how.

Most houses don't have home phones anymore so kids cannot just call up their friends. I think the over lap of people who don't allow kids' phones also don't allow social media is high.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would this not be a ban on phones for kids and less on in class? I don't think they would miss out on much during class time, but not having a phone at all would cause a social barrier in today's world.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uhm yes. A second argument was that the children need to learn media literacy with the medium they use the most. Of course this would need more competence and guiding on the side of the teachers.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're adding another thing to teach, it would also require additional time. Teachers have full loads as-is.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Yes, we need to reform the system.

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

There's plenty of absolutely useless stuff done in schools just because that's how we used to do it.