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New European car registrations of Tesla vehicles totaled 8,837 in July, down 40% year-on-year, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers Association, or ACEA.

BYD recorded 13,503 new registrations in July, up 225% annually.

Elon Musk’s automaker faces a number of challenges in Europe, including intense ongoing competition and reputational damage to the brand.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (31 children)

It's because people are waiting for the new model Y. 🤣🤣🤣

t’s not only Tesla feeling the heat from Chinese competition. Jeep owner Stellantis, South Korea’s Hyundai Group and Japan’s Toyota and Suzuki, all posted year-on-year declines in European new car registrations in July.

Japan has generally been really underwhelming in the EV market, offering mostly Hybrids. While I hear Hyundai is cheap in USA, that is not really the case in EU, a Huyndai is as expensive as a VW. Stellantis is a crap show, they continuously offer too little too late and overcharge for it.

By contrast, Volkswagen, BMW and Renault Group, were among those that logged increases in new European car registrations across the month.

VW group is really killing it here in Denmark 7 out of top 10 most sold models are from VW group here, and I think in most of EU it's mostly similar, because they offer cars with a very strong combination of range quality and attractive price.

VW has the lowest rate of errors at German mandatory biannual safety check published by TÜV, with for instance Tesla failing 7 times more often, With nearly 15% failure rate!!
In Denmark it's even worse for Tesla with 30% of model 3 failing after 4 years!!! (first mandatory check) And Tesla even rejecting repair under warranty.
The faults aren't minor either, they are serious faults in brakes, suspension and steering! No other brand is nearly is bad as Tesla in safety checks! The average rate is 11% so Tesla is about 3 times worse than average!!

https://fdm.dk/nyheder/nyt-om-biler/2025-01-populaer-tesla-model-dumper-med-et-brag-til-syn

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 8 points 3 months ago (14 children)

It's so bizarre to me that Toyota in particular isn't a bigger player in the EV market after they were the first to get a mass market hybrid going. They were halfway there before anyone else, why'd they stumble so badly?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Because the Japanese government 25 years ago encouraged Japanese manufacturers to develop Hydrogen cars, that never went anywhere.
Only Nissan had an early effort on BEV with the leaf, but it was underwhelming, always the battery was too small, because they thought it was more important to keep the price down, and sell it as a secondary city car, than make an actually useful battery electric car.

For all their faults, Tesla did show the way, that it was possible to make good battery electric cars, instead of the flimsy comedic electric toy cars that were common at the time Tesla introduced the model S.

However the Hydrogen car may actually still be the future, that future is just not yet, because the price and loss of energy making hydrogen are too high, so hydrogen is not a good option until we have huge amounts of surplus energy from renewable sources that are otherwise wasted. At that point hydrogen may make a comeback as an excellent buffer to even out the difference in production to consumption of renewable energy.
But on the other hand, batteries may be so widespread at that point, that we may just use huge batteries to do the same.

In my household we have a 7.5 kWh battery that charges from our solar panels, that can last us ½ a day, easily enough to last the night over during summer. Imagine if we used a cheap used 100 kWh battery from a car instead. That would be enough to last us a whole week! At such a point the variance of renewables will be easily compensated by battery parks.

Hydrogen will however be superior for planes. Because hydrogen cells are lighter for the same energy than batteries, and the hydrogen can even be used directly in a jet engine with no harmful emissions. But we are probably still more than a decade away from that becoming main stream, although there are already examples of using it.

So all in all Toyota arrived this year with their first attractive BEV. And they will absolutely be a major player soon.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 3 months ago

Oh wow, I had completely forgotten about all the hydrogen car experiments! There was even an actual functioning hydrogen bus system for a little while in a city not too far from me

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