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And make these dumb fucking celebrities understand that they are just as big a problem by going to these people.
Pearl Jam tried at what was pretty much the peak of their career and it didn't go well for them. Ticketmaster holds an illegal monopoly and should be forced to allow other players to sell tickets to the venues that they have in a stranglehold.
Did they really try?
Seems like a popular group such as pearl jam could get away with selling tickets without this company.
Yes, they really did try. And because pretty much all large venues are Ticketmaster-only, they cancelled a tour in 1994.
What about the ones that weren't ticketmaster-only?
I find it hard to believe they couldn't find a place to have their shows. Maybe in a major city, but if they were willing to go outside of one then there's no way ticketmaster is going to have control over everything.
It could've been good business for the towns they played in and ticketmaster would be left out to dry.
I guess that's asking too much of them, though. Even though it's really not.
I'm going to have to say nay on their attempt. They could have and should have tried harder.
That's what they tried. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalogy_Tour#History
So... what was the problem? How did it get "insane"?
Is it because nobody else "big" joined them? Is it because, and hear me out, they decide it was no longer worth the money?
Setting up shows in venues that do not normally host large concerts is a lot of work, obviously.
Seems like artists would have some way of setting up shows outside of Ticketmaster's control.
Not in any way that would be meaningful for bands that tour internationally and play for tens of thousands. Pretty much all large venues have exclusive contracts with Ticketmaster.
Smaller bands, sure.
It’s not really up to the celebrities, I’m afraid. The venues themselves have exclusivity deals with LiveNation, and pretty much every venue that’s at least of medium size has this deal. I guess you could say “then don’t perform at those venues” but imagine Metallica performing in a 100-person venue… that’s kind of unfair to all the people that want to see them
Go back to the traditional way of renting them for a party at your place?
Not to mention the musicians often don't have control over their tour schedules.
You don't get that they can choose who what and where to go. They could make a shitty no name stadium a good one. There are no excuses for rich privileged children. Which unfortunately is most of them.
The shitty no name stadium probably also has an exclusive contract with LiveNation. Or else it just doesn't host live performances in general, in which case it simply doesn't have the infrastructure to host a huge band.
What infrastructure? Amps? That's a non-issue.
Business and personel infrastructure.
I completely agree with you.
The whole atmosphere surrounding live shows is toxic as fuck. There are literally millions of useful idiots eager to get ripped off so they can fit in with each other.
It's a force that logic can't fight back against. We live in a world of morons, and seeing them get taken advantage of in this way is something we should just get used to.
I'm not holding my breath expecting things to change. My generation certainly wasn't the one to fix these problems.
It is not that simple. The DOJ filed a lawsuit against Ticketbastard last year over their monopolistic practises although the suit will probably be dropped if they pucker up and kiss the oily rectum of the insane clown pressie.
I'm hesitant to blame the celebrities on this one. Putting on a concert is a business proposition not just for the venue and ticketing (dis)service, but also for the performers. As with any business venture, the goal is to profit. Larger acts often have large set pieces to create and massive amounts of equipment to transport, not to mention all the labor that goes into setting up at each venue. Can't make the economics of that work if you don't have enough seats to sell, and Ticketmaster/LiveNation owns the lion's share of those large venues.
You cant be serious? Are you going to defend the people who kept TicketMaster in power? Without their concerts they wouldn’t be a business? Todays the day we should learn about choice and free will. Because theyre freely choosing ticketmaster. E-concerts would be cheaper more worthwhile and guess who never gets a dollar?
Lol. Who tf is gonna pay for an e-concert? You know you can just listen to the band on spotify, right? The point of going to a concert is:
None of these things are possible when you are watching someone play on a screen at home.