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A poll conducted by an Israeli organisation has revealed that the vast majority of Israeli Jews believe there are "no innocents" in the Gaza Strip. aChord, a research group linked to Hebrew University specialising in social psychology, said 76 percent of the Jewish public partially or fully agree that "there are no innocents in Gaza".

The survey found that even among Israeli opposition voters, 47 percent fully supported the claim, while among Jewish opposition voters, a majority also agrees with the claim. Researcher Ron Gerlitz described the results of the survey as "difficult findings" that indicated attitudes that fed into acceptance of Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza.

Anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab sentiment in Israel has been growing in recent years, targeting both Palestinians in the occupied territories and Palestinian citizens of Israel. Last week, a Palestinian bus driver in Israel was attacked by a group of Jewish youths shouting "death to Arabs", the latest incident in a string of racist attacks on Palestinian citizens of Israel. The bus driver, Mohammed Abd al-Hadi, told Ynet the incident happened after he asked the young passengers to stop screaming and vandalising the vehicle. "They insulted me and shouted racist sayings like 'Jew - good; Arab - son of a removed' and 'death to Arabs'," he said.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, imma go ahead and say "let's be the only significant minority in medieval Europe" was never going to end well.

Meanwhile, there was no dietary or quasi-polytheism conflict with Muslims. By all accounts relations were usually better, although I'd assume not perfect, and they would have had to pay the extra tax.

[–] nearhat@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not a contest of which group is most persecuted.

The Romani continue to be persecuted in Europe to this day, but I don’t believe there’s a racist, settler colonial movement to carve out an ‘ancestral Romani homeland’ in South Asia and drive out the indigenous inhabitants, based on non-exclusive ties to the land.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I never said it was a contest. I made an observation about why Ashkenazi Jews had a hard time historically, and then agreed that you're probably right about the Sephardis, although I know less detail there.

The Romani continue to be persecuted in Europe to this day, but I don’t believe there’s a racist, settler colonial movement to carve out an ‘ancestral Romani homeland’ in South Asia and drive out the indigenous inhabitants, based on non-exclusive ties to the land.

So Jews are uniquely racist? You see how that's ironic, right?

The difference is the particulars of history, don't try to make it about more than that or you're just another part of the problem.

[–] nearhat@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I never said Ashkenazis are uniquely racist.

The Ashkenazis who invaded and colonized Palestine were driven by a deeply racist ideology, and thus were racists themselves.

Not all Ashkenazis are Jewish. A not-insignificant number of Ashkenazi Americans are atheist. They are Ashkenazi by ethnicity.

We say Jewish Ashkenazi and Atheist Ashkenazi in the same way we say Muslim Palestinian, Christian Palestinian and Jewish Palestinian.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, there's atheist Sephardis too, and we'd still call them Jewish. Conflating Israel or Zionism and Jewishness is bad, but Jews come in multiple types, even if Ashkenazis are the ones that started the Zionist project in earnest.

A good 20-25% of modern Jewish Israelis have a Sephardic background or similar, it looks like. It's not "white people are uniquely racist", either.

[–] nearhat@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s the (Eastern European) white-default understanding of Jew, and conflating it with an ethnicity rather than a religious community, that is being called out here.

Because even in occupied Palestine, you have racism by Jewish Europeans against Jewish Africans, even though by their own standards, they are one race, one people.

All this is irrelevant to the root cause of colonialism in occupied Palestine. Peace will come when Ashkenazis and other Jewish immigrants can accept being full and equal citizens under a secular republic where one person gets one vote.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

At this point, it seems far more likely they'll succeed in their genocide. They don't really have motive to agree to a two-state solution, even.