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The device known as shoyu-tai (or soy-sauce snapper in Japanese) was invented in 1954 by Teruo Watanabe, the founder of Osaka-based company Asahi Sogyo, according to a report from Japan’s Radio Kansai.

It was then common for glass and ceramic containers to be used but the advent of cheap industrial plastics allowed the creation of a small polyethylene container in the shape of a fish, officially named the “Lunch Charm”.

The invention quickly spread around Japan and eventually worldwide, and it is estimated that billions have been produced.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I'm gonna say it:

The problem is not the fish-shaped plastic per se, but the fact that so much of it ends up in the ocean: Why do we still not collect and burn plastics properly? People throw their waste everywhere because there's not enough waste bins in comfortable walking distance. In Vienna, where waste bins are frequent on the streets (you basically never have to walk more than 30 meters to one, no matter where you sit and pause, somehow), there is literally no litter in the environment. No plastic articles or metal cans on the streets. Very rare cigarettes laying around. That's because Vienna has enough trash cans. Many cities don't have that and people have literally no choice to dispose of their trash properly because there's simply no trash cans around, so you either carry your dirty plastic packaging in your backpack and therefore sully your backpack with the grease on the packaging, or throw it into the environment.

Then, there needs to be strict laws that say that all plastic waste has to be burned, not dumped into the environment.

Then, biodegradable bioplastics would also mitigate this problem a lot.

[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 2 points 14 hours ago

I don't think you even begin to understand what it's like to have billions of people on the earth.

No matter what we do, people will still slip through the cracks and this litter will get out.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 4 points 17 hours ago

Ironically, Japan has almost no trash bins. You'll find them next to vending machines - you're expected to consume there and throw away packaging immediately, or take the rubbish with you.

So pick a lane. 100 bins per square kilometer, or none.

Anywhere in between evidently sucks.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

People throw their waste everywhere because there’s not enough waste bins in comfortable walking distance

I see almost daily people throwing trash on the street in front of an empty recycle bin. I think the issue is more about people not giving a shit than convenience of finding a trashcan or keeping stuff in your pocket until you do.

[–] adavis@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

In addition, too many people don't even care enough to use the correct bin. Every bin day my neighbours bins are overflowing with no recyclables in their recycling bin. I wouldn't be surprised if the bins were meaningless and it all went in a hole in the ground

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

it practically does all go to the same incineration site. the recycle bins are mostly to make you believe otherwise, for political reasons, sothat you look at plastic in general more favorable. but practically none of it gets recycled.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

That was true a long time ago. And remains true in some places, but since we started pushing the different bins, things progressed on that front. Plenty of place have actual recycling facilities (although their efficiency is another topic). Of course, in some far away area, it is not practical to sort stuff, but it's kind of a chicken and egg problem. Infrastructure see no point in making large facilities for processing recyclable if they're not sorted, and people see no point in sorting their trash if the infrastructure isn't available. Putting colored recycling bins everywhere to initiate the process was cheaper.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the issue is more about people not giving a shit

but do these trash cans have funny jokes on them like these ones:

"mist" is trash in german

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Eh. No jokes, no. The most engaging thing I remember seeing around in the city was a "vote" panel for cigarette butts with silly questions; but even that has gone away.

It is unfortunate that we're at this point. Hopefully other places do fare better.

[–] corodius@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Burning plastic does not mitigate its environmental effects, and infact would increase air pollution and microplastics exponentially if we were to start.

I fully agree with the rest, but burning plastic is definitely not the answer.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

i too would like any kind of reasonable source about this, because i've heard very different from a many colleagues who work in this field.

modern incineration sites are very clean and produce no significant air polluting output. at least in modern sites. microplastics is also not an issue with these. the problem is that the trash gets thrown in rivers and forests where it breaks into microplastics, but that isn't an issue if it's all collected and incinerated.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

So, did you just come up with that, or do you actually know something about industrial incinerators used for power generation?