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Rupert Murdoch's Skynews:

The protesters rallying for migration control on Sunday aren't knuckle-dragging racists, but normal people who think open borders is a bad thing – that's something that will shake the progressive activists to their core

https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/tony-burkes-nothing-could-be-less-australian-slur-on-immigration-march-protesters-exposes-canberra-elites-preference-for-every-flag-except-their-own/news-story/f33c17a896e6d29b504f9e4ce0f5fac8

In much of the media, the impulse has been to give less emphasis to the mass of people and try to shape the narrative around the rowdier reactionaries in the crowd and speakers with dubious ties and divisive platforms. While such elements deserve scrutiny, this doesn’t take into account, and even wilfully ignores several realities.

https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/progressive-media-teaming-up-with-labor-to-tar-march-for-australia-protesters-with-the-racist-brush-driven-by-emotion-not-reason/news-story/66c4ff5c2e06ace8951fd83805ae3f3e

The Guardian:

Neo-Nazis used the shield of ‘ordinary mums and dads’ anti-immigration rallies to sell white supremacy

From online grievances about migration to men dressed in black in a sea of Australian flags, far-right groups clearly intended to capitalise on events

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/02/how-neo-nazis-used-the-shield-of-ordinary-mums-and-dads-at-australia-anti-immigration-rallies-to-sell-white-supremacy-ntwnfb

Politicians:

"There's always good people who turn up to demonstrate their views on particular issues, but what we have seen here is Neo-Nazis being given a platform," Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said.

"[These events were] attended by people of goodwill but hijacked by violent Neo-Nazis spouting hate and racism," said Opposition Leader Sussan Ley.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-03/anti-immigration-rallies-anthony-albanese-sussan-ley/105720568

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[–] FreedomAdvocate 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Great reply, you definitely disproved the ABS’s own data.

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh sorry, here's the statement from the ABS. I guess you would know that if you didn't cherry pick data to fit your narrative.

Okay it's time to leave me alone now dumb-dumb. Take care of yourself.

Multiple media stories have been published this week using Overseas Arrivals and Departures (OAD) data to make commentary on migration numbers. This data does not reflect the official ABS definition of migration and may lead to inaccurate conclusions on migration.

[–] FreedomAdvocate 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Did you even read it? The ABS statement doesn’t go against what I said.

OAD is not net overseas migration (NOM), correct. NOM figures for 2 years ago, however, were 1500 new immigrants per day. Last year it was 1220 per day. Since we don’t have the total NOM for this year we don’t know the latest per day figures, but outside of exceptional circumstances like Covid, the OAD and NOM are closely related since the NOM is a subset of the OAD.

Also did you notice that the ABS didn’t tell us what the current estimate of NOM is, or how many are coming in per day who are on visas that mean they will be staying? Did you stop to wonder why that is?

“It’s not 1500!” but refusing to give an actual number is pretty telling. It could be 1400 which is the same as 1500 for all that matters, and the ABS aren’t lying.

And after all of that, the main point is that even if it’s only 200 per day, that’s 200 more people every day who need to find a house to live in at a time when we’re in a severe housing available crisis! Do you not see how that keeps compounding the problem?