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People are trying to 'win the argument' for personal satisfaction. They're not trying to self-correct or seek the truth.
I'm the opposite; I have hundreds of people blocked, mostly because they are bores.
Another aspect of this that I've found is that engaging in benevolent smalltalk with someone here on Lemmy somehow sometimes results in them treating it as an argument.
No, I will not concede to whatever point you're trying to make; I was making conversation, you were trying to win an argument. I don't care if you're convinced your particular approach to a particular problem is better than mine.
And if they then don't realize that I'm not interested in engaging, and keep the "debate me bro" attitude, they usually end up on my blocklist, or at the very least they end up with a red tag behind their name.
No, u'r wrong 😜
Your mom likes me anyway
She told me likes me more
That's what she said!
Reddit made that change where if you blocked someone they couldn't reply to you in a thread.
That was quickly weaponized so that you could 'win' an argument. Someone could write something and your reply would not appear, so it looked like you realized you were wrong.
Only way around this is editing your previous comment, though I've been told that can sometimes lead to a ban? Never happened to me though.
What really annoys me about that is that it prevents you from replying to anyone ELSE who replies to you in that thread, which is completely absurd.
I don't know about this "winning" theory.
Generally, people feel like they've won when they get the last word in. If you block someone, you don't see their replies and assuming they do reply to your last comment, they would get the last word.
Personally, I block people when I realize there's no point in continuing the conversation. I'm not trying to win an argument, I'm just over it and don't want to interact with their toxicity.
On both Reddit and Lemmy, blocking someone prevents them from replying. It prevents them from even seeing your final word*
* sort of. Depending on exactly where and how they look.
I don't believe they are blocked from replying on Lemmy. That's the opposite of what I've heard, but I haven't really experimented.
Pretty sure it doesn't do that on lemmy. I definitely have comments with blocked responses (they show up a specific way in Jerboa) from people I blocked ages ago. If I open the thread in a browser where I'm not signed in I can see their response clearly.
So they can still see and reply to my comments, I just don't have to see more than an error message that the comment couldn't be loaded on my end.
I might be wrong, but I was under the assumption that Lemmy doesn't stop them from replying. There was a recent conversation complaining because blocking people didn't silence them.
If you want to test it, feel free to reply and block me, I'll see if I can keep the conversation going. Unblock later tonight to see if it worked.
I guess Reddit does it that way, but I try not to think about that place anymore.
My experience is that on Reddit it replaces the comment with
[unavailable], similar to[removed]when a mod removes it, or[deleted]when they delete it themselves.And that on Lemmy, it depends on client. On lemmy-ui (the default web client), it sometimes shows up as that "1 more reply" option, but when you click it, it never loads in. On Jerboa, it says something along the lines of "unable to retrieve this comment".
Both of those are what happens when you come across a comment from a person who blocked you in the wild. It may or may not be different when it's in your inbox.
I've been blocked by at least one person on Lemmy, for reasons that I honestly have no idea, and have come across this in the wild a couple of times, including opening something I originally found on my computer in Jerboa to double-check, as well as opening up incognito where I'm logged out and therefore not blocked.
Also replying to @MagicShel@lemmy.zip, @wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I've blocked a lot too. Mostly people who have closed minds and aren't listening just waiting for their turn to reply. I don't have patience for that shit anymore, find someone else. *Block
How do we promote more people to cooperate instead of compete in the mutual pursuit of truth while maintaining humility and introspection that their own views could be incorrect?
Different format of discussion.
Social media: people trying to win binary points 👍👎
Wikipedia, scientific discussion, or a deliberative assembly: slow process towards writing a statement of a position, with lots of study along the way
There's such a massive disconnect there, though, isn't there? I agree the slow deliberative process is key; but there is clearly a missing piece of the puzzle to bridge that gap between experts and laypeople that unfilled leads to well... All this.
Not everyone is seeking truth.
That's the problem