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Okay are we going to talk about the Russian-NATO air disputes? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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Usually this stuff gets posted here so I'm surprised no one has said anything.

Honestly I'm a little lost on what's happening? The west is obviously manufacturing consent for something, but idk what. More sanctions? More weapons to ukraine? More social welfare cuts? The revealed occupation of Ukraine by the west?

Or is Russia actually instigating this on their own? If so why? Just to test the current resolve of NATO? Maybe to see what NATO currently wants to do, in the event Ukraine falls and Russia/whatever Ukrainian state exists after has a border with a belligerent west?

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Russia's MFA denied it, but even according to what Estonia itself put out, the violation was Russia barely grazing their air space over open water:

Russia has to get to its Kaliningrad territory somehow, and they won't always perfectly thread the needle in the Gulf of Finland, that's just a geographic reality. It's happened before and it will happen again, with ships or planes. The Baltics need to get over their butthurt.

So this is another big nothing burger just like the Poland drones story. Of course the Euros are using it to fearmonger and saber rattle, but they do that with everything involving Russia. They always love having an excuse to talk among themselves and feel important.

And yes there are some who are desperate to draw NATO into direct confrontation with Russia, but that's not happening. The Europeans are useless and the US have made it clear they have no interest in that, their resources are already overstretched as is.