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Okay are we going to talk about the Russian-NATO air disputes? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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Usually this stuff gets posted here so I'm surprised no one has said anything.

Honestly I'm a little lost on what's happening? The west is obviously manufacturing consent for something, but idk what. More sanctions? More weapons to ukraine? More social welfare cuts? The revealed occupation of Ukraine by the west?

Or is Russia actually instigating this on their own? If so why? Just to test the current resolve of NATO? Maybe to see what NATO currently wants to do, in the event Ukraine falls and Russia/whatever Ukrainian state exists after has a border with a belligerent west?

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

NATO doesn't need to go to the trouble of actually putting MiG-31's in the air themselves to stage a false flag. It's not like they detect these planes by sight. You just need to fake or slightly alter a radar detection. You can just put out false data. Who is going to have the ability to verify whether Russian planes were off course by a few hundred meters? You have their word against Russia's and who is the MSM going to believe?

Russian planes fly through the corridor over the Gulf of Finland all the time. This is nothing new. Afaik Russia confirmed they were there, they just denied that they went anywhere they're not supposed to. Whether or not that's true i don't think matters, it's not going to change the West's narrative.

Now, Ukrainians grabbing some downed Russian styrofoam drones and sending them over Poland for a false flag is one thing. I'd say that is at least plausible considering there are some open questions about the range of Russian decoy drones that aren't exactly consistent with drones launched all the way from Russia and somehow, whether accidentally or deliberately, making their way all the way into Poland. But whole warplanes? Nah.

Let's not go into unrealistic conspiracy theory territory when there are far simpler and more plausible explanations that fit just fine. It's good to be skeptical, especially when we know that the West is waging a huge propaganda war, but it's also important to remain grounded in reality if we want to be taken seriously.