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Russia can both oppose western imperialism and be imperialist itself is it too hard to comprehend?
Napoleon was both a monarch and subjugated other monarchies. Just because he overthrew european monarchies doesn't mean he was anti-monarchy
Anti-european monarchy sure but not anti-monarchy in general
Did you actually read anything of what was said in the thread i just linked? Have you read the resources that were provided there, such as: https://mronline.org/2019/01/02/is-russia-imperialist/ ? Seems like you didn't. You continue to argue based on a false premise.
Did you listen to the video in this post? Have you actually taken the time to understand what this conflict is about? Here are some more resources you can use to educate yourself: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9212334
Yes I did. You keep posting the same stuff proving western influence in Ukraine sure this is true yet you still fail to respond to my point that Russia is not representing any form of a proletarian struggle against bourgeois influence. Yes it struggles against western bourgeois influence BUT it does that by replacing it with IT'S OWN bourgeois influence! What does it have to do with anything anti imperialist (which means opposition to EVERY foreign bourgeoisie)?
No you didn't quit lying
Opposition to imperialism and colonialism is revolutionary and progressive even when it comes from bourgeois forces because it opens the door to proletarian revolutionary forces. Marxist-Leninist theory is very clear about this:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch06.htm
The primary contradiction in the world today is not between workers and peripheral capitalist states like Russia, it is between hegemonic Western imperialism and those resisting it. It is the struggle against neo-colonial subjugation, super-exploitation and underdevelopment.
The biggest global barrier to proletarian revolutions and national liberation worldwide is US and European imperialism.
Russia is allied with or providing aid to every existing socialist or anti-imperialist state. They are directly arming or otherwise supporting the countries that are most acutely struggling against imperialism and colonialism, from Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua, to Mali and Burkina Faso, to Iran and the DPRK.
But beyond of all that, Russia simply does not fulfil the criteria of the Leninist definition of imperialism, especially not when taking into account how imperialism has changed over the past hundred years:
https://www.struggle-la-lucha.org/2022/03/02/is-russia-imperialist/
https://classconscious.org/2025/06/03/is-russia-an-imperialist-power-revisiting-lenin-in-the-21st-century/
https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/why-russia-and-china-are-not-imperialist--a-marxist-leninist
https://www.ir-press.ru/2025/08/24/russia-not-an-imperialist-country/
The Russian economy is still more akin to that of a neocolonized global south country than to one of an imperialist country.
Unless your definition of "imperialism" is just "when country does things outside of its own borders", Russian imperialism ended in 1917.
Stalin talks about national struggles not inter-national struggles. While yes a bourgeois movement can be anti-imperialist it also has to be fighting for the sovereignty of its own country not for foreign soil.
While this war produces some anti-imperialist outcomes, they're only a secondary effect caused by the nature of inter-imperialist wars where both imperialist sides weaken eachother.
The core nature of this war is only anti-imperialist as far as the class conscious proletariat of each side fights against the imperialist aims of its own state (and their hegemons in the case of Ukraine).
Russia is not waging this war to free Ukrainian people from capital and imperialism as it might claim (if so why is Russia not fighting capitalism within itself?). It's waging this war to extend the sphere of influence of its own bourgeoisie, hence it's imperialist despite the side effects
Every war waged between capitalist states (with the exception of national liberatory struggle) is an imperialist war. Funnily enough applying Stalin's ideas in Foundations of Leninism to the current situation makes the Ukrainian population opposing both western and eastern imperialists the anti-imperialist forces in this war, even if they are influenced by bourgeois ideology (this of course excludes pro-nato elements)