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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has stated that Russia is importing petrol, calling it the rightful result of the work of the Security Service, the Armed Forces, intelligence and Ukrainian weapons manufacturers.

Quote: "Today, there were also reports on our entirely justified strikes against Russian targets – against their logistics and fuel infrastructure. I am grateful to our warriors for their precision. Russia chooses war, Russia destroys our people's lives, and must be held accountable – our long-range capabilities will increase.

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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 16 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Isn't Russian economy based mainly on oil export? If that's true, then it should collapse soon. I a little bit doubt that it'll actually happen soon, though.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 0 points 41 minutes ago

They are spending their export earnings, to import refined petroleum products now, ROFL. And you better believe that Ukraine will be targeting import facilities and infrastructure soon....

Imagine an oil economy that has to import oil products, hehe. What an unmitigated fail that ruzzia, and their midget dicktator is.....

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 41 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

They're still exporting but it's crude oil instead of refined product now so a lot less profitable.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago

They're exporting crude on the cheap (due to sanctions) and buying back market rate refined fuels. They're losing twice on it.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

It's hard to get definite info from there, but some experts* say the economy is way worse off than what they show the West.

OTOH China is helping them...

* and I mean that unironically.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago

Of course. When you're waging war you don't show weakness to your enemy.

What I find stunning is how little clue the standard Russian citizen has. They know there are fuel shortage but they don't know why.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's quite probable. Also even help from China is probably not sustainable. Let's hope it crumbles, the sooner the better.

[–] Xartle@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It looks to me like China isn't really interested in helping Russia win. They are helping Russia just enough to keep fighting and throwing away, well, everything.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 0 points 37 minutes ago

It will be hilarious when China takes back far Eastern ruzzia, and maybe Siberia and a chunk of the Arctic too. Pootin the midget has well and truly fucked his pariah country forever. Ruzzia will be paying reparations for all time, and the location of Pootangs grave will be forgotten

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It becomes fairly obvious when you think about what the likely effects would be.

Let's say Russia achieves all it's military obejctevies; they crush the Ukrainian military, the remaining civilian population offers an unconditional surrender, and Russia is able to completely annex Ukraine. Then what?

Then China's biggest and most powerful neighbor would be even bigger and more powerful. Once hostilities ceased, Russia would slowly be able to start selling oil to the rest of the world again so China wouldn't get as good a deal and the negotiations on Power of Siberia would get more complicated.

Where is the upside for China?

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago) (1 children)

Much of far eastern ruzzia has original chinese names. If anyone thinks China wants Taiwan back, how do you think they feel about Far Eastern ruzzia? LOL. China is just waiting for ruzzia to finish exhausting themselves, and then maybe ruzzia won't be the biggest country by land mass anymore. Siberia, and a big chunk of the Arctic also hold much allure for the chinese. Japan should grab Sakhalin and the Kuriles, too. The location of Pootin the Midgets grave, will become ruzzia's saliva and urine National Reserve.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

If China wanted to invade Russia. Why would they want Russia to win a war first? Why would it be easier for China to wait for hundreds of thousands of troops to be freed up. If China wanted to invade Russia, it's hard to think of a better time than right now. They would be caught with their entire army on the wrong side of the country and most of the world lined up to support China, or at least stay out of the way. The only deterrent is Russia's nuclear arsenal and that wouldn't go away after a victory in Ukraine either.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

I have bad news for you. China isn't actually waiting for "russia to win a war first". They are sitting back, encouraging and aiding ruzzia to use ALL of it's resources and abilities, and become even weaker in the process. Then, when ruzzia is negligible soon, it might be time to repay some historical insults, hey? And, if by some million to one chance, ruzzia wins against Ukraine, well, China can use that in it's Taiwan strategy. It's a win either way, for China. China also has nukes, and I'd bet theirs will work, unlike the ruzzian ones that haven't been maintained for decades because ruzzian generals all need cash.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

China has been watching go try to get an impression of the west's reaction to the invasion. They want to be able to predict what will happen when they go into Taiwan.

Roll over, or full blown shooting war with the USA?

[–] RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 49 minutes ago

Delusional, China will simply wait out the impending collapse of the US and the ensuing end of our support for the current Taiwanese regime, after which peaceful reunification will be an inevitability. The US desperately wants China to do something stupid, as a justification for our aggressive foreign policy & to generate international support/repair our damaged reputation, which is exactly why they won't.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago