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[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Which bit of history does this represent?

At first I thought it might be the break up of the USSR, but that doesn't really work here. So that leaves me at a loss.

I just can't see how Gorbachev and Trump, or their actions, are similar.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Listened to a podcast with a person who lived in the ussr when it fell and was comparing it to current day America. Basically they were saying that people are becoming more cynical and don't really believe in the project any more and are waiting for something to come along and fundamentally change things.

With gorbachev it was a turn to democratic liberal capitalism, with trump its a turn to autocratic neo-mercantalism.

Both could bring down the great empires of the twentieth century.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

With gorbachev it was a turn to ~~democratic~~ liberal capitalism, with trump its a turn to ~~autocratic neo-mercantalism~~ fascism.

Nothing about Russia after the USSR is democratic, not even the dissolution. As for the US, yeah its just fascism, fits the mold quite well.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

not even the dissolution

Especially not the dissolution. They had a referendum to attempt to legitimize the dissolution, which failed in a landslide, and then they ignored it and did it anyway.

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