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EU Chat Control didnt pass - proving the media got to alot of you (www.patrick-breyer.de)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by themurphy@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Chat Control didnt pass - they didnt even vote because they were afraid the result would be embarassing.

And we got told so many times, that EU now wants Chat Control. But it was a big fat lie.

EU is a democracy with different opinions, and when a small group of facists tries to read your chats, it does not represent the EU opinion.

But the whole media got you thinking so. Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.

I quoted the article here with the news:

In a major breakthrough for the digital rights movement, the German government has refused to back the EU’s controversial Chat Control regulation yesterday after facing massive public pressure.

The government did not take a position on the proposal.

This blocks the required majority in the EU Council, derailing the plan to pass the surveillance law next week.

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[–] exu@feditown.com 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It didn't pass because people pressured Germany to reject it. If Germany had stayed undecided they would definitely have had a vote on Chat Control and potentially passed it.

[+] CosmoNova@lemmy.world -13 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

But even if they voted on it and even if it did pass. European courts probably would have stopped it immediately.

[–] exu@feditown.com 24 points 23 hours ago

Maybe, but I'm much more comfortable with it failing as early as possible

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That is the American approach to legislation: get in as many laws that favour you or your sponsors, and pray the courts let at least some of them through.

That's not how this is meant to work. The courts shutting down a law is a last measure, when everything else has failed and hell's about to break loose.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I mean duh but similar bad things have passed and got rejected by courts so it‘s a very functional mechanism. The EU isn‘t very comparable to the US system by the way.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This kind of haphazard approach isn't going well for the US. We thought we could rely on decency.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

You can‘t compare the US to the EU here. I would never say trust US courts. LMAO

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 15 hours ago

The US has been basically completely flipped on its head in only a few short years into fucking authoritarianism. We have many measures in place to prevent this and they all fell apart. Our system was only loosely held together by good faith. And that faith is gone. And as a side tangent I'm not sure we'll ever get it back. Be vigilant, it happens quickly.