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EU Chat Control didnt pass - proving the media got to alot of you (www.patrick-breyer.de)
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Chat Control didnt pass - they didnt even vote because they were afraid the result would be embarassing.

And we got told so many times, that EU now wants Chat Control. But it was a big fat lie.

EU is a democracy with different opinions, and when a small group of facists tries to read your chats, it does not represent the EU opinion.

But the whole media got you thinking so. Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.

I quoted the article here with the news:

In a major breakthrough for the digital rights movement, the German government has refused to back the EU’s controversial Chat Control regulation yesterday after facing massive public pressure.

The government did not take a position on the proposal.

This blocks the required majority in the EU Council, derailing the plan to pass the surveillance law next week.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Good news. But I'm downvoting that post. OP's living in reverse crying-wolf land, it seems.

First, Chat Control got further than previous attempts, with a bigger scope than ever. Being worried about that is not the result of propaganda.

Second, a lot of countries where on board, including Germany. Stuff changed after lot of feedback. You can be cynical all you want arguing that "people's voice don't matter" and saying there's no causality there, but people made themselves heard, and thing moved. There's no telling what would have happened if they didn't.

The proposal being ultimately shot down (this time!) does not mean, at ALL, that it wasn't a very dangerous one.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

This post reminds me of a bunch of the "y2k scare was a hoax and a waste of money!" stuff from back in the day. With a bunch of people not realizing how much shit was fixed and what massive success it all was.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -2 points 14 hours ago

Second, a lot of countries where on board, including Germany

That means nothing. The governments (which the stances of were being counted) have not that much to say on how the MEPs will vote.

For example, if the Polish government was in favour of this, half of their MEPs would've still been against.

You can be cynical all you want arguing that “people’s voice don’t matter” and saying there’s no causality there, but people made themselves heard, and thing moved

I think he's arguing the exact opposite, mate. He literally said that:

EU is a democracy with different opinions, and when a small group of facists tries to read your chats, it does not represent the EU opinion

There was a lot of panic about the EU being an oppressive "over-government", trying to subjugate the population like the UK government is doing. That propaganda never made sense to me, but it felt very much like something the pro-russian mob would be spewing because it sows division and chaos, decreasing people's appreciation of the EU, stoking exit views.