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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

You seem to be talking about influencers and whatnot. I'm talking about your average Joe in the middle that doesn't really follow politics but was mad at things getting more expensive over Biden's term. They aren't large in numbers, but they tend to determine elections.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Ah, yes, there are also the terminally dumb and uneducated. But those people are just weaponized votes. They don't appear to have their own thoughts or agency, just mindless drones following whatever their one podcast or one cable network or their one YouTube guy tells them to do.

But no, there's also plenty of videos of random magas in various formats, and a driving factor for those people appears to be hate (with a healthy mix of not understanding the concept of cause and effect)

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The messaging was:

  • Harris - I agree with everything Biden's did and wouldn't change a thing
  • Trump - Biden's economy was a mess and I'm going to fix it

What do you expect the average person to take away from that?

Harris ran an awful campaign IMO, so it's not surprising that people opted for the alternative.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 3 hours ago

What do I expect them to think? "Trump was a shit president last time, why would I give him another shot"

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