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Ms Rachel calls out uncle tom (lemmy.ml)

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If you’re not aware of the subtle but pervasive linguistic technique here, you need to educate yourself.

Maybe educate yourself on logic: you're ignoring the logical distinction between fewer Israelis & all Gazans indicated by the choice of words & context.

You're choosing the most offensive interpretation despite latitude to interpret this differently & more coherently as explained elsewhere.

Let's see how your argument plays out with alternatives.

Israeli people & Gazan people

What? So, all Israelis suffered equally? How dare he say they suffered as much as Gazans‽

Israeli families & Gazan families

So, the Gazans without families don't count? What an asshole!

Losing with you is a foregone conclusion. Everyone has to delicately dance & mince words or be subject to irrational condemnation from your crowd.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ya know, I try not to be one of these people that just digs in their heels on a take, no matter what is said in response, so I took the time to consider what you said, what Obama originally said, and what I think.

I do want to make some concessions. I stand by a lot of what I said in a general sense, but yeah, this wasn't a good example of what I was describing, to the point of being a weird spot for me to jump in. This case has a reason to use those terms for each group, as you've pointed out, and it even has a reason to mention both groups.

I'm not giving him a pass on much in general, but I see why people are not seeing the thing here. More subtle than I gave it credit for.

E: the comment link didn't work for me btw, I'm on mobile tho