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[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (44 children)

I think you can have this same dilemma as an atheist as well. I'm personally agnostic as I don't have the knowledge to make a decision.

If we are all just atoms moving/reacting, surely everything we'd ever do would be predetermined by the initial reactions/vectors/forces at the big bang. I know there's quantum randomness and stuff, but it's possible that's all calculable and we simply don't have the means to calculate it. If that's the case, IMO we still have freewill because we can't predict the future, and it's still worthwhile to move forward doing our best to be good people.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 23 points 1 month ago (15 children)

My take is that there is no free will, but that this fact is irrelevant and we're all better off just behaving as though we do.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

At least here in the US, a person's zip code of birth is a huge indicator of their success and life trajectory. That, to me, would seem to indicate that free will is bullshit.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmm almost as if free will isn't some magical ability to remove yourself from any disadvantageous situation, but a fundamental liberty to choose how you act in response to said situation and see in it a metaphysical meaning that transcends cultural ideas like success? Damn, wouldn't that be crazy. If only that was true, could you imagine?

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