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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago (21 children)
  1. Similar does not mean identical. Accounting for distinctions is an important part of contending with people, as individuals or as groups.

  2. I more meant vague in the sense that it doesn't say much about veterans as a whole. These days, if you have a smartphone and an internet connection, you can be a "content creator". Doesn't inherently mean you speak for anyone other than yourself. Unless you are talking specifically about people who speak for orgs and are elected by members of those orgs.

  3. This is some "if you're not with me, you're against me" shit. My original question was just asking if you had sourcing for your sweeping claim about an entire classification of people. I did not even advocate for trying to recruit veterans. I do, however, take issue with being reductionist in dealing with millions of people. Even if you have -100 desire to ally with veterans, it's still important to understand the distinctions of where they are actually at, politically. Minority veterans, for example, are probably going to be closer to something politically that could be an ally, or at least not getting in the way. And if it's all but assured they're going to end up as opposition and reaction, then you need to contend with in what way that's going to manifest and how to deal with it; another time when distinctions matter.

[–] Darkcommie@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (20 children)

They’ve worked together in both Afghanistan and Iraq it’s identical

Doesn’t matter what you mean I was very specifically referring to content creators who were veterans and made content appealing to other veterans the fact that all of these people happen to be douchebags and scum doesn't bode well to the politics to the veteran community

I am being reductionist in regards to their politics because thats their politics look at their voting habits and look at the shit they’re spewing every time they open their mouth

Also let’s examine your point here

Minority veterans, for example, are probably going to be closer to something politically that could be an ally, or at least not getting in the way

Do you really want to ally with someone who had a very good chance of having committed atrocities during their services regardless of if they felt bad about it? And even if they committed no war crimes why should we recruit them?

[–] ComradeRandy@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Respectfully, I think you should study past revolutions, material analysis, the distinction between idealism and materialism, and Lenin's left-communism; an infantile disorder

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