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Similar does not mean identical. Accounting for distinctions is an important part of contending with people, as individuals or as groups.
I more meant vague in the sense that it doesn't say much about veterans as a whole. These days, if you have a smartphone and an internet connection, you can be a "content creator". Doesn't inherently mean you speak for anyone other than yourself. Unless you are talking specifically about people who speak for orgs and are elected by members of those orgs.
This is some "if you're not with me, you're against me" shit. My original question was just asking if you had sourcing for your sweeping claim about an entire classification of people. I did not even advocate for trying to recruit veterans. I do, however, take issue with being reductionist in dealing with millions of people. Even if you have -100 desire to ally with veterans, it's still important to understand the distinctions of where they are actually at, politically. Minority veterans, for example, are probably going to be closer to something politically that could be an ally, or at least not getting in the way. And if it's all but assured they're going to end up as opposition and reaction, then you need to contend with in what way that's going to manifest and how to deal with it; another time when distinctions matter.
They’ve worked together in both Afghanistan and Iraq it’s identical
Doesn’t matter what you mean I was very specifically referring to content creators who were veterans and made content appealing to other veterans the fact that all of these people happen to be douchebags and scum doesn't bode well to the politics to the veteran community
I am being reductionist in regards to their politics because thats their politics look at their voting habits and look at the shit they’re spewing every time they open their mouth
Also let’s examine your point here
Do you really want to ally with someone who had a very good chance of having committed atrocities during their services regardless of if they felt bad about it? And even if they committed no war crimes why should we recruit them?
Respectfully, I think you should study past revolutions, material analysis, the distinction between idealism and materialism, and Lenin's left-communism; an infantile disorder
Im not a leftcom im not even sure why you think im a leftcom Just explain something to me from your posts you seem to value veterans to an unreasonable degree why is that?
"I believe we need to recognize the material conditions are so deeply against us that in order for a revolution to have any chance of success in this jingoist country we will almost certainly need to make active inroads in splitting the military ideologically and pushing them left utilizing their experience in combat to serve as cadres. I wont disagree that veterans are overwhelmingly reactionary, I’m not even saying I like them, however I cannot think of a single revolution that succeeded without an organized effort deployed to incorporate military experience into the revolution itself. Without that I can’t imagine a revolution progressing further than the Paris Commune." You aren't conducting any historical or material analysis, youre basing your entire successful revolution on whether or not your allies pass a vibe check, this dogmatic insistence is why I believe you to be a leftcom.
“No historically or materially analysis” sure dude good luck trying to split the military ideologically and I’m the idealist here whats next we should split the police ideologically
I am not trying to attack you but rather engage in dialectics as every good communist must do. I highly recommend you reading this book, it will help you understand what it means to be a marxist leninist. Without a grasp of dialectical materialism and historical materialism I'm afraid there are going to be a great deal of definitions you are using very differently from the average marxist leninist as evident by your misunderstanding of idealism