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Marvelous idea, let's disregard well established language and time critical systems already relying on the existence of timezones that can't easily be updated for... Being able to tell people your time without actually conveying information.
"Hey wanna play some videya" I ask my friends on another continent during noon "Sorry, its not quite dark yet but already too late for hideogame" -my friend, for whom the sun is still visible, but its a little bit too late, wishing there was a way to easily convey the fact that it is 21:00
Time zones may suck for programmers, but everyone who thinks even a little bit about human to human communication realizes how stupid it is. But I digress, were on lemmy; we dont do human to human communication often
Apparently not. Why wouldn't you just say, "sorry, going to sleep soon" in your example? How is saying it's 21:00 local time critical to communicate that it's too late for games? Why would that inherently communicate that? 21:00 is a pretty normal time for me to be playing games
And saying "let's play at 06:00" still doesn't make any sense because once again, 6 for me and for you is different
You should at least know where someone lives and you can do the conversion. Either way, maybe you would have an established way of communicating with a gaming mate or a guild or something, like only posting times in UTC for example. We have this already. ๐
You mean that we already have a system in place, being UTC, for when timing is important where "lateness" is not important, like for a livestream, however a removal of timezones would make human to human interaction worse where "lateness" is important (basically everything between a small group of people). Like what happens if you dont know someone's timezone like on a lemmy comment, go ahead is it 14:00 for you? Sorry I mean is it in the night? Sorry its winter, so night starts earlier. How long ago was the sunset so I can know how tired you are so we can sync up and develop a feeling/estimation on how how long we will play videojames.
Yes the sillyness of choosing videogames and live streams is chosen deliberately, because I, as a normal human being, do not give a shit about how time zone influences the stock market and their finances. I just want to quickly know for how long you'd be able to play without deliberately ask for that.
"Wanna play monopoly?" "Its 22:00" "An OK, how about some uno?"
The 22 immediately conveys me that a: you are tired and probably dont want to do math b: you aren't gonna stick around for the 6h of a monopoly game c: if I do want to play monopoly, I can estimate how much earlier I need to ask next time
If the 2nd person said"its evening", it could've been anywhere from 16 to 20, and depending on the personal opinion of the second person, it could be from 18 to 22, good luck doing any planning
Or do you want to have to say that the sun is up but it is slightly too late for monopoly? Also what does late mean? If you generally go to bed at 20 because you have to wake up at 5 for work, even 18 is late; good luck explaining that to someone without being able to use numbers everyone understands similarly enough. (Remember: no time zones == 10, noon for me, could be midnight for you, however since we use the same numbe with different meanings, we can't easily say shit)
This was a pretty rambling comment and hard for me to follow, in all honesty.
I think if you ask someone to play Monopoly, you wouldn't get a reply saying "it's 22:00", you'd get a reply saying "nah, I have to get to bed", or "yes". It's not really an issue whether or not we have universal time or time zones. I don't know anybody who would reply in that robotic way. But I don't know your friends.
Anyway, because of the confusing structure of your comment, I'll just ask: what is the problem you're having and how do you propose to fix it? And why does the current system not work for you? I can't decipher that from your comment, sorry.
That would imply everyone living in the same time zone wake up at the same time, go to bed at the same time, etc, where this is clearly not even close to being true. If it's too late to start a monopoly game for you, you can just say so
Shops, schools etc should just have hours that make sense for the local solar time anyway
Sorry I may have worded it not good within my ramble. Yes you are correct in that not everyone has the same sleep schedule, but it doesn't really matter does it? 12:00 is still 12:00, we know what we mean; this doesn't work between countries (or the same like China if its big enough for different timezones (which like China intentionally adopted because of specifically this reason)). Since 12 for me and for you are different, we have to do a handshake of how what number means which can be avoided with time zones. I know that 03:00 is night for you (whoa I dont even need to know in which county in which country you live)
To go back to monopoly, since you also responded to that "Want to play monopoly" "No" Why? Too late? Not interested? And when you answer with "its too late" I dont know if its too late for anything, as it currently 15:00, or because its 11:00, and you have enough time to play one or two rounds of uno
Likewise the example another user used down below with traveling. If one usually wakes up at 06:00, one would have to look up, and calculate to what they have to change their alarm to go off at the approximately correct time, which will be ass for people traveling for work often
You seem to have missed at least part of my point. To keep with the monopoly example, you already can't assume that it's too late for anything or there's time for a game of Uno, because people have different rhythms and there's variance, so even if you know it's 2300 for them it still doesn't solve the problem, you are just making an assumption which may or may not be correct on any given day for any given person.
I can't understand if you are promoting time zones or if you want to get rid of them. Which is your stance on time zones?