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The entire US economy is currently being propped up by growth in the AI/tech sector. And I am convinced that LLMs are fundamentally incapable of delivering on the promises being made by the AI CEOs. That means there is a massive bubble that will eventually burst, probably taking the whole US economy with it.

Let’s say, for sake of argument, that I am a typical American. I work a job for a wage, but I’m mostly living paycheck to paycheck. I have maybe a little savings, and a retirement account with a little bit in it, but certainly not enough that I can retire anytime in the near future.

To what extent is it possible for someone like me, who doesn’t buy into the AI hype, to insulate themselves from the negative impact of the eventual collapse?

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[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Hard assets make a lot of sense when paper assets do not.

Real estate and precious metals are the traditional hard assets. The stock market can implode, but a home will remain a home, an acre will remain an acre, an ounce will remain an ounce.

There are difficulties and risks and efforts required with hard assets, theres a reason why soft assets developed, but when things go wrong people trust what they can hold and walk on - and thus seek real estate and precious metals as they are certain and tangible.

With a little more trust in the system, there are softer assets available such as bonds, specifically treasury bonds, and there are etfs that attempt to exclude the ai bubble such as XMAG, or the sp500 but equally distributed instead of by market cap which increases diversity like RSP to reduce the fallout of the ai bubble pop

Theres a million ways to navigate a bubble, do the research and find confidence in your plan, and think about how you'll react in various scenarios, especially when the numbers go down or arent going as high as expected

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 38 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Real estate

I saw that you put a caveat in there about it, but I'm going to make it a little more clear.

If anyone here has lived through the dot.com bubble in Seattle (and probably the bay area), they'll have seen that real estate is great if it's paid for. If you go underwater on your loan and kicked out, which is how the banks got so much real estate in 08, you're fucked. There *are no general rules, but guides.

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In general, investing borrowed money is risky... People just don't realize they're doing that when they take on a mortgage.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago

This reminds me that I wish there was a basic course on money and the systems around it, that explains everything like you just did. It's not magic, but it's obfuscated behind so many terms and people trying to sell content, that it's not a simple thing to figure out on one's own.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Real estate is a trouble prone investment normally, much less in this crazy market; I specifically wouldn’t want to touch that right now.

Can’t speak for metals, but also be careful there…

Thing about a bubble like this is you don’t know when it’s going to pop. I like the saying “the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.”

What I’m saying is to be careful about going all in on more pure hedges. If this lasts another 4 years and one's into stuff like XMAG and metals, and they drop in a crash anyway, you may end up in a worse position than if you had held the S&P 500. I think a better perspective is to avoid “buying a hedge” and instead invest in companies (or other assets) one thinks will be productive and grow with the bubble or not. They’ll grow however long the bubble goes, and keep growing after.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

an ounce will remain an ounce

Buy cocaine futures, got it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago

cocaine prices actually went down due to trump/noem pulling CBP off the borders to support ICE.

[–] Bocky@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

An ounce just isn’t the same anymore with all this inflation

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

Shrinkflation is ridiculous, you're lucky if you even get 25 grams now. /j

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 6 days ago

I don't know about you but an ounce never remains and ounce you cut that shit make two ounces then someone else does the same and sells it as grams