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As Ireland's $1,500-a-month basic income pilot program for creatives nears its end in February, officials have to answer a simple question: Is it worth it?

With four months to go, they say the answer is yes.

Earlier this month, Ireland's government announced its 2026 budget, which includes "a successor to the pilot Basic Income Scheme for the Arts to begin next year" among its expenditures.

Ireland is just one of many places experimenting with guaranteed basic income programs, which provide recurring, unrestricted payments to people in a certain demographic. These programs differ from a universal basic income, which would provide payments for an entire population.

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because the average person, world-wide

Of course, because the average person in the West is already rich.

So there are the resources for an UBI.

are spending hundreds of billions of dollars on stupid bullshit that even they don’t really need.

Make it $800 billion. That would give each person $100.

It’s pretty clear that we should indeed start with the rich.

It us not. The rich can prevent you from starting if you need them to participate but nobody is preventing you from doing it yourself.

No. The rich will never do anything other than short-sighted profiteering

Even if they do, it's just $100 more. You don't need them.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Make it $800 billion. That would give each person $100.

I'm not talking about just taking the bullshit money away. The combined assets of "big" capitalists worldwide is in high-double-digit trillions of dollars. That would be enough for a livable UBI for everyone, for some time at least. Redistributing the rest of the capital more equitably is trickier but also worthwhile.

It us not. The rich can prevent you from starting if you need them to participate but nobody is preventing you from doing it yourself.

As I've said, I'm participating in local mutual aid communities when I can.

Even if they do, it’s just $100 more. You don’t need them.

Even $100 is considered an OK monthly salary in some places of the world. But redistributing all the wealth more equitably would mean a lot more than $100.

Stop defending capitalists, they will never appreciate it or give you anything in return.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

The combined assets of “big” capitalists worldwide is in high-double-digit trillions of dollars. That would be enough for a livable UBI for everyone, for some time at least.

That doesn't work. Assets are not recurring income so you can only handout them once.

As I’ve said, I’m participating in local mutual aid communities when I can.

What does prevent it from spreading?

Stop defending capitalists, they will never appreciate it or give you anything in return.

They create the structure. People could already have the assets for UBI if they were structured. We don't have because groups don't have the discipline to maintain the structure all the time.

If the group can force the billionaires to hand out the assets then they could also create the assets on their own.