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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 283 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I will continue to enjoy my incredibly straightforward and to the point Linux desktop that’s somehow gained a new AI-free feature by doing nothing.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't you want a bunch of pop-ups nagging you to use their AI gimmicks, though?

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Damn it! I’m in.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Would you be able to point me toward a good thread about "beginner-friendly" distros that works well with games?

I honestly have no idea what to trust when it comes to this

[–] moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub 1 points 4 hours ago

That’s a bit like asking, “Can you point me toward a beginner friendly car that has air conditioning and a radio?” You’re going to get 100 different answers because there are a hundred different distros that do all the things. The differences between them are small and not really of interest to a new user.

So I’ll give you a general rundown of the names you’ll probably see:

  • Ubuntu: The classic recommended option and the most used worldwide. Though they’re corporate run and occasionally makes weird decisions that piss off the linux community, so you won’t see it mentioned as much as it was 10 years ago.
  • Kubuntu: An Ubuntu flavor with a very customizable Windows-like desktop that should feel very comfortable for new users.
  • Linux Mint: Essentially decorporatized Ubuntu with their own custom Windows-like desktop. It’s often the go-to recommendation to new users now, though I’ve personally never tried it.
  • Pop!_OS: Basically Ubuntu with NVIDIA drivers enabled by default, so it positions itself as a gaming distro.
  • Zorin: Another Ubuntu clone that tries to look as much like Windows as possible for new users.
  • Fedora: A more frequently updated distro, which is appealing to those with newer hardware. A little less straightforward for new users but still not super challenging.
  • Nobara: Pop!_OS except for Fedora.
  • Bazzite: An immutable Fedora distro (meaning you can’t edit the underlying filesystem,) making it behave more like a consoles. Honestly, immutable distros are a niche in linux so you should probably avoid it as a new user, but you’ll see it listed as it has some diehard fans.
  • Arch: A DIY distro for enthusiasts and tinkerers with very frequent updates, so good for newer hardware.

But again, they’re all like 95% the same as each other. I’d just pick between Kubuntu or Mint, maybe Pop!_OS if you don’t feel like going into a menu and enabling NVIDIA drivers.

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 41 points 2 days ago

Bazzite is specifically for PC gaming and is a very friendly starter distro.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 29 points 2 days ago

Bazzite, definitely.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 22 points 2 days ago

Pop!_os worked fine for me out of the box. The UI is a little mac-like (dock on bottom, spotlight like search when you hit the super key) by default.

Steam just works. Heroic launcher just works. It's simple.

I've also used mint, but had slightly less luck with its install working out of the box. All issues fixed eventually but there was some head scratching.

Linux nerds tend to have opinions and it's easy to lose sight of what it's like as a beginner.

But ultimately it's pretty easy to switch distributions. They're all free.

[–] dbkblk@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Don't go onto specialized distro. Just use the main ones like Mint (which is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian). I would say that Debian is the best one, but it needs to read some docs if you have a Nvidia Graphic card (but if not, it should be easy and super stable). Bazzite, Nobara, etc, are based on distro that are quickly changing (Fedora or Arch), which are really nice in their own way, but as a beginner, you need stability first!

Try this : https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=325 It is Linux Mint, but directly based on Debian instead of Ubuntu!

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 10 points 2 days ago

I don't agree that Debian is a good choice for a gamer - it sacrifices performance and features for stability, which is not ideal for gamers, who probably want to run the newest drivers and featuresets. Don't get me wrong, I really like Debian, but as an server os, not for a gaming machine. Something based on Arch or Fedora is a lot better for the rapidly changing environment we are talking about, they can adapt much quicker than Debian.

[–] DivineDev@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

I'd say especially for beginners it's important that Nvidia GPUs work out of the box. Someone coming from Windows would likely not think highly of an OS that needs extra steps for something that just works on Windows, and there are enough Linux distros offering just that.

[–] cycadophyta@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Linux Mint has been able to run games for me. Look up the steam proton virtual windows tool

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I Will get down votes but none works well, most work fine given you spend enough time tinkering. Pirated games are a waste of time to get running and there will be some distros that already come with stuff set up to be " plug and play ", but it never is.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would you recommend an alternative?

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Dual boot windows unfortunately it's the best option for games until things change.

That said my daily driver at work is Arch at home is Ubuntu and I have a Ubuntu server for my NAS.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I installed Mint a week ago and it has played all of the 13 games I tried without any effort from me, except one which ProtonDB told me to change the compatibility mode in the steam properties then it worked great.

I would say see the ProtonDB entries for some games you like to set your expectations.

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Like others said, bazzite and pop os, though I've never used either. I use mint and never had a problem.

Though it should be pointed out that some MP games that use a kernel level anti cheat can't be played (battlefield 6 for instance).

But I also wanted to mention, you can run Linux from a USB flash drive. So of you want to try out one of them without actually installing it, you easily can. If you don't like it you don't install. If you do, then you go for the full install. Easy non committal trial so to speak.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 points 2 days ago

If you have an Nvidia GPU, i can warmly recommend Nobara (a Fedora spinoff) to you. https://nobaraproject.org/download-nobara/

[–] _druid@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pop_OS! and Bazzite were the first two I tried when I made the switch. They were advertised as working right out of the box, which they did not for me.

When I was trying Nobara, I learned I had to run something in the command line to get gamemode to work properly with Steam. Ever since then, Nobara has worked for my gaming needs.

A few tweaks are needed here and there, but it's literally copy and paste from protondb.

[–] imecth@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

Distribution are basically a bunch of presets, nobara is just fedora with a few gaming defaults, bazzite is immutable fedora, popos is ubuntu... If you can pinpoint the problem you probably could've fixed it in both bazzite and popos without moving around; there's thousands of different pc configurations so ymmv across distros.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

I haven't done much gaming but Steam seems fine on my old laptop running Mint.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Then you install Docker because may Linux apps come distributed only as Docker images and find out that Docker has its own AI built in called Gordon.

Then Lemmy dogpiles me for, "What do you expect for running corporate software."

[–] doxxx@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only Docker Desktop has the AI feature. You can install the Docker engine and CLI tools without it on Linux. Or Podman, a similar alternative.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Nobody expects new Linux users to use the CLI though. For a normal user that just wants to run their software they will encounter this crap.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use it and I have not encountered this. You’re referring to the desktop GUI maybe?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, Docker Desktop which if you follow the guide for Network Proxy Manager and other docker apps you end up installing. You'd have to already know that Docker Desktop has AI to avoid it and find a work around install.

If the default is getting Docker AI when you install popular apps in Linux, at that point it's not different from knowing that the default is getting Copilot in Windows and then following online guides to remove it.

[–] russjr08@bitforged.space 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I assume you mean Nginx Proxy Manager? I'm surprised that you would even run that on a desktop with a GUI, seems far more fit for a headless system. Of course, nothing stops you - it's your system.

As a general note I'd recommend docker CLI / compose, most applications will assume you're using that and have instructions tailored for it (which is helpful if you're new to docker).

To be honest I didn't even know docker had a desktop app for Linux, I've only seen folks use it on Windows and macOS.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm surprised that you would even run that on a desktop with a GUI,

???

The install guide says you need docker compose and links to the docker compose install guide. The link provided for docker compose installs docker desktop. Docker Desktop is a program that shows your running Dockers and allows you to start and stop them.

But fuck me for being a simple man that Read the Fucking Manual and followed the directions provided.

[–] Sleepkever@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No need to be so hostile.

Installing docker desktop is fine but if you are on Linux and in any way comfortable using the command line I'd definitely run without the desktop part. Just docker and the composer addon is enough.

That nginx proxy manager recommends desktop for Linux environments which most of the time don't even have a GUI is a bit bizar tbh.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

No need to be so hostile.

It's frustratingly hypocritical that Linux users rightfully dunk on Microsoft for it's AI yet defend Linux platforms despite the AI.

When it's the default in Windows, Microsoft is evil. When it's the default in Docker, you should know better and figure out how to install it despite the official online documentation telling you to install Docker Desktop to get Docker compose installed.