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German exports to China fall 13.5%, imports rise 8.3%

Exports to China fell even more sharply than those to the United States, dropping 13.5% year-on-year to 54.7 billion euros in the first eight months of 2025.

By contrast, imports from China rose 8.3% to 108.8 billion euros.

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io -3 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

As terrible as the Trump administration is, China is still worse. Think freedom of speech is under threat and reduced in the US? Go to China and criticize Xi publicly. Think the Republicans are rigging Congressional races with gerrymandering? Try one party rule. Worried that you could be disappeared and show up in a prison hundreds of miles away or in another country altogether? How about just disappearing forever?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

On climate change China is way better than USA, and Climate change regards the survival of the human race.
Also criticizing the president of USA is no longer without danger. Especially for immigrants and tourists, that we have examples of are thrown out for it, and public people are harassed and lose their jobs.
USA may still be slightly better, but it is not by much, and USA is trending in the wrong direction.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

"Nothing could ever make me want to gouge my eyes out with a ballpoint pen", I said to myself just before reading this comment.

[–] fleebleneeble@reddthat.com 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

You describing China is different from the US how? You can't make jokes about our admin with the wrong people without it being catalogued if not just outright "getting" you for it. People are turned away from entering for memes literally. One party rule is no different than having Dems and Reps. Different colors, same flavor of shit. Even if some people on the lower end of the Dems are trying to "make things better", which is mostly trying to go back to pre Covid status quo. And being disappeared isn't something that doesn't occur in the states. Especially if you are a service member in the military and you go against whatever is happening administratively. Fort Leavenworth isn't the only place to have you thrown away.

[–] despite_velasquez@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

What's the point of being able to criticise someone publicly, if nothing's going to change to your material conditions? Sounds like yelling at clouds: feels good, but doesn't achieve much

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I'm not sure what your point is here, you're just describing the exact same thing. I mean it's clearly not worse all of your examples apply equally. I'm really not sure where you were going with this.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 10 hours ago

China is worse at home (for now, give it a year and it'll flip), but abroad the US no-diffs.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Germany be like:

Fascists to my left!

Red fascists to the right!

Neither US or China are good options. Germany should have ideally focused trade on anyone but the two.

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

to what extend is china fascist in your opinion?

china doesn't have centralized power, china is democratic on a grassroots level, china doesn't screw it's workers for max profit.

i fail to understand this label, as china is not following the core tenets of fascism

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

By democratic on a grassroots level you mean that if you try democracy, you can see the roots of the gras growing above your grave?

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

ok... but do you have more substantial arguments with less polemics?